Leading Saints Live: Engaging Conversations on Leadership, Community, and Spiritual Growth
Leading Saints Podcast
Leading Saints
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 8 April 2026
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Jump into Zion Lab: https://app.leadingsaints.org
In this episode we back up to early March for the first “Leading Saints Live” livestream where Kurt Francom explains more about Zion Lab and shares highlights from discussions.
We discuss:
- Zion Lab as a Resource
- Generational Disconnect: The gap between older and younger generations, the pressure to conform to expectations, and the facade of compliance rather than genuine engagement
- Bishopric Responsibilities: Shifting responsibilities of bishops and balancing their focus on youth while ensuring all members receive adequate support and ministering
- Communication Strategies: Ask open-ended questions and foster a non-judgmental environment to promote dialogue and understanding
- Boundary Changes and Transparency: Is there a need for transparency regarding boundary changes? Can communication reduce anxiety and foster acceptance?
- The Power of Naming: Inclusion and Belonging for LGBTQ+ Families in Church Discussions
- How to become a Zion Builder (and how to get a sponsored membership if cost is a barrier)
► Links & Resources:
📱 Download the Leading Saints app: Search “Leading Saints” in the Apple App Store or Google Play
💬 Join Zion Lab and become a Zion Builder at https://app.leadingsaints.org
📩 DM Kurt directly inside Zion Lab
“Leading Saints Live” streams every first Friday of the month in the Zion Lab app.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome. This is Kurt Frankum with Leading Saints and we are jumping into a little bit of an experience, an experiment, sorry, which should be an experience. |
| 0:18.0 | And that is Zion Lab Live. now this is something we've been thinking about |
| 0:26.8 | because the big problem that we have with Zion Lab and if you're listening to this recorded because I do |
| 0:32.8 | hope to push this via the podcast feed as well there's there's so much content going on at Zion Lab. |
| 0:40.5 | And if you're not familiar, |
| 0:41.4 | Zion Lab is at the core of leading saints. |
| 0:44.5 | For so many years, |
| 0:45.5 | people thought of leading Saints as a podcast, |
| 0:49.8 | but we're really an online community, right? |
| 0:53.4 | And so Zion Lab, anybody can go there and poke around and take a look at it by going to |
| 0:58.8 | LeadingSaints.org slash Zion. |
| 1:01.2 | And in there, people are having conversations. |
| 1:03.8 | They're posting perspectives. |
| 1:05.7 | We're having live streams like this one, which is being done via Zion Lab. We record some interviews in there, |
| 1:14.8 | but just it's so awesome to see the influx of conversations happening. And they're not always |
| 1:21.4 | started by me, which is kind of how it felt in the beginning where I was just trying to get any |
| 1:26.2 | type of engagement happening in Zion Lab. And so, of course, I want to post some things. But now I just, I go on |
| 1:31.9 | there myself and I'm like, it's like a buffet of leadership thought and perspective as I go in |
| 1:37.7 | there and see various things people are posting or sharing. And so we have a live remote audience here that's tuning in. Bryce is with us. |
| 1:48.3 | You hear me all right, Bryce. Are you going to unmute and chat with me a little bit too? |
| 1:53.5 | I want to love to chat with you, Kurt. Yeah. Love it, love it. Well, and Sam is here as well, |
| 2:00.0 | Hayden, mysterious Hayden. |
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