I think this guy kind of set me on this path of realizing that I can reach people by just being me and knowing my audience.

When I'm writing a script, when I'm performing on a stage, everything is like, who is in this audience?

What's like a need of theirs? Where do they maybe feel overlooked? What need can we meet?

And that doesn't mean like these people are homeless and we need to get everybody houses.

I mean like, we might just be in a place where people need encouragement. I always start with like who is the

audience and then how can how can we shape something that will encourage them to believe in themselves

more, to take more ownership of their life, to take more ownership of their businesses.

Hey, it's great to have you back for another episode of the leadership podcast. And what I can guarantee you, and I promise you this, is not only

are you going to get better today, but we're going to have a good time. I have an amazingly

interesting guest with me today.

If you've ever watched America's Got Talent, you might have seen this guy because he was the winner of America's Got Talent in 2021.

He's been featured on Ellen, NBC, Fox, CMT, NHL, ESPN, ABC, DQ, whatever, every station around.

He's been on, featured at the Olympics.

He is one of the best storytellers I've ever heard in my entire life.

And Dustin Tevella is using magic.

That's right.

We've got a magician on the podcast.

He's using magic to make the world a better place.

He's got a show that's been in Branson for quite some time. He is a strong follower of Jesus. He's a very,

very good friend of our church. He's a very good friend of you version. He's a very good friend to me.

And so welcome aboard, man. Thank you so much for having me. That was a very nice introduction.

Well, you have, I mean, your story is ridiculous. And you've performed on some of the biggest stages

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