Hi, my name is Pete Scazerrell. I want to welcome you today to the emotionally healthy

leader podcast. Again, it's wonderful to be with you. And we've been doing a really a four-part series.

Today's a fourth part of leadership blind spots that we have in ourselves and around us that cripple us from what God has for us.

So today is the fourth, which is called a wrong view of success, a wrong view of success.

Right now I'm in my office, and we're going to imagine that you're right here sitting across

for me behind my computer.

We're going to have a conversation about success. So you're a leader serving in some capacities or a pastor in a church or in your

nonprofit or perhaps in the marketplace where you serve. And I'm going to imagine you ask me the

question, Pete, so how would you, how do you define success?

What I like to do is I just made a list.

If I was having this conversation with you of some things that I want to talk to you about, I've got nine here, actually.

And so the first few obviously have a bit greater weight, and they overlap into the ones that will follow.

So, well, let's just go jump right into it. Okay. So I say,

first of all, success is, number one, your communion with Jesus. It's being with Jesus before you do

for him. And so the question I want to ask you about is, you know, how are you doing with that

in terms of your communion,

your rhythms of being with him? I mean, the number one priority of my life is to be a disciple

of Jesus, to follow him, to listen to him, to be with him. And so I'm monitoring every day

and actually throughout the day, and I'm monitoring every week

and every month and through quarters and years and decades.

How are my rhythms of communion of being with Jesus out of which I do for him?

And so this has led me, as many of you know, beginning from 2003 when I had this immersion

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