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The Next Big Idea

Laziness Does Not Exist

The Next Big Idea

Next Big Idea Club

Self-improvement, Arts, Books, Society & Culture, Education

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2024

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Today, social psychologist Devon Price makes the intriguing and ultimately hopeful case that laziness is a myth, a lie, a pernicious trap with no other purpose than to make us feel lousy for not doing more. Host: Rufus Griscom Guest: Devon Price (This episode first aired in October 2021.) 🎁 Get 20% off a Next Big Idea Club subscription when you use code PODCAST at https://nextbigideaclub.com/ 📩 We recently launched a daily Substack! Sign up today at https://bookoftheday.nextbigideaclub.com/

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0:00.0

LinkedIn presents.

0:05.4

Some episodes stick with us and keep coming up in our conversations.

0:10.4

Today we're revisiting one of them an interview I did with social psychologist

0:14.6

Devon Price author of the 2021 book Lazyness does not exist.

0:19.5

Devon's thesis which is right there in the title, is that the whole concept of laziness is a myth, a lie, a pernicious trap designed to make us feel lousy for not doing more, more, more in every sector of our lives.

0:36.0

We're always pushing ourselves, but Devon asks, why?

0:40.7

Who are we trying to please? What are we trying to prove? What if when we feel

0:46.3

quote-unquote lazy it's not a moral failure? It's a sign that we need to slow down.

0:52.1

Take a beat, chill out.

0:55.0

Here's the other key insight I took away from Devon's book and this conversation.

1:00.0

When we're in a healthy place, stress-free, interacting with people we care about,

1:05.4

when those things line up, motivation is natural.

1:08.8

It's not something that needs to be summoned or manufactured or willed on a daily basis.

1:14.2

I think that's a beautiful message.

1:16.8

I found it to be true, and I'm excited for you

1:19.6

to hear more about it from Devon. I'm Rufus Griskam and this is the next big idea. Today does

1:28.4

laziness really exist? exist. I'm going to do something unusual this week.

1:44.0

I'm going to do something unusual this week. I'm going to share with you a little bit about

1:55.4

our process here at the Next Big Idea Podcast. And I think it's best to do this with my partner

2:00.4

in the show. Next Big Idea producer, Caleb Bissinger.

2:04.3

Hi, Caleb.

2:05.1

Hey Rivas.

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