I'm thrilled to today's guest of pride of Dorchester.

I'm thrilled to today's guest, the Pride of Dorchester,

Lawrence O'Donnell, who is of course the host now for 13 years of the last 13 years, my goodness, of the last word.

He has had an illustrious career, every Emmy Award winning work for years for Daniel

Patrick Moynihan, a writer, a best-selling author, a Thesbian. Thanks for being here, Professor O'Donnell.

You know, Donnie, you said 13.

Now, in my head and maybe according to the record, it's 12 12 but I also lie about my age so I don't know

it could be it could be 13 I don't know last we cross paths you and I were having a

heated exchange a few years back during me it was the presidential

primaries in 2020 and I made the statement that if Elizabeth Warren gets the nomination, they'll lose 47 states.

And you went off of me, like, how do you know this?

And my answer is, I don't.

We just make shit up.

And that's the, I should have said that at the time.

Well, it was one of those,. It was one of those moments where I just thought every once in a while we should do a truth

and labeling thing whenever we're doing predictive stuff.

Yes.

And call them guesses instead of predictions.

Because there's something about predictions that sounds like you're a weatherman, like you actually know.

And you know, and Donnie, I gave it up, like I gave it up after, Trump went you know from six points to 12 points in the

polls in the Republican primary after the thing with John McCain I just gave up

predicting because I just thought, oh my God, there's no, there are no gravitational

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