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Lawrence McDonald: How To Listen When Markets Speak

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🗓️ 4 June 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Danny Moses interviews Larry McDonald on how several prior calls played out, including regulatory relief for banks, a rotation into hard assets and energy, and AI-linked nuclear exposure via NUKZ. McDonald argues the economy is increasingly K-shaped: wealthy consumers benefit from higher money-market yields and AI CapEx, while consumer-facing companies like McDonald’s, Home Depot, and retailers weaken, pushing money into crowded tech trades. They discuss risks from massive AI/space IPOs entering indexes, the “dark side” of passive investing, and the potential for an inflation rebound driven by oil, summer demand, and Middle East disruptions, which could spur rotation from tech into commodities. McDonald outlines constraints from rising debt interest costs, a stagflation risk, a plan to force banks to buy Treasuries, and opportunities in gold miners and uranium amid looming supply deficits, plus election-driven value setups in Brazil. -- ABOUT THE SHOW For decades, Danny has seen it all on Wall Street and has built his reputation on integrity, curiosity and skepticism that he will bring with him each week. Having traded through the Great Financial Crisis and being featured in "The Big Short" is only part of the experiences Danny wants to share with the listener. This weekly podcast cuts through market noise, offering entertaining and informative discussions with expert guests giving their views of the financial world and the human side of it. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just getting started, On The Tape provides something for all listeners. Follow Danny on X: @dmoses34 The financial opinions expressed are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on this content. Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in 'On The Tape' carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose. Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

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0:00.0

In this episode of On the Tape, I welcome back, my friend Larry McDonald.

0:05.0

Larry was on the tape about a year ago, and I thought it would be good timing to get an update from him and his thoughts on the markets.

0:11.0

Just to refresh your memory or introduce Larry to you if you aren't familiar with him,

0:15.0

where was a distressed credit trader at Lehman Brothers during the GFC and wrote a book about it titled A Colossil Failure of Common Sense.

0:22.4

Soon after, Larry started the Bear Trap Report and still going strong today, not satisfied with one New York Times bestseller,

0:29.2

Larry wrote a book in 2024 entitled How to Listen When Markets Speak and the Risk, Myths, and Investment Opportunities he sees today.

0:36.5

We're going to get into those risks, myths, and opportunities and be sure to. We're going to get into those risks,

0:38.1

myths, and be sure to stick around for my Cal She Picks of the Week and enjoy my conversation

0:43.0

with Larry. Larry, welcome back to On the Tape.

0:47.4

Danny Motus, thank you, my friend. Good to see you. So last year we had you on almost exactly a

0:52.3

year ago, and a lot of your predictions actually have come to fruition.

0:57.0

And I want to just go over some of these because we're going to get to them and talk about present day and what you're going to see ahead here.

1:02.9

At that time, we just come kind of out of the tariffs a little bit.

1:06.6

We needed to raise the debt ceiling, which we ended up doing.

1:10.2

You talked about Bessent pulling out his bag of tricks, which he has, which we'll get to,

1:13.9

which includes stable coins.

1:15.3

We talked about regulatory relief coming for the banks in the form of SLR, right?

1:19.8

We talked about kind of energy potential rotation into those stocks.

1:26.0

And one of the things you hammered on was if you really

1:28.4

believe in this AI trade and the tech trade, then you have to believe in nuclear and all the

1:33.4

infrastructure stuff around it, namely the NUKZ, which is up nicely. And by the way, some of those

1:38.3

energy stocks, whether for it in Apache or APA, whatever it's known now, have more than doubled.

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