Lawless: How The Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vibes

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Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.5 • 1.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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On this week’s episode of Words Matter, Leah Litman, legal expert and author of Lawless: How the Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vibes, joins David Rothkopf and Norm Ornstein to discuss the current realm of law and lawlessness. What messages are the courts sending by striking down Trump’s tariff policies? How promising is it that these judges are standing up to Trump, and what major concerns still remain, even with these recent steps forward? Tune in as Leah, Norm and David discuss all this and more. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:05.5	Hello, and welcome to Words Matter. I'm your host, David Rothkoff. Every week, of course, you know, I'm joined by Norm Ornstein.
1:14.3	In fact, you show up for Norm Ornstein, and you tolerate the fact that I'm here. And that's good, because Norm is here with us. How are you doing, Norm?
1:24.2	About as well as usual, David. Actually, I'm sorry.
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1:52.6	Because we are also very fortunate to be joined today by Leah Littman. Leia is a professor at the
1:59.5	University of Michigan Law School, one of our favorite law schools,
2:03.9	and she is a co-host of the strict scrutiny podcast. And you recall that we've had her
2:11.9	co-hosts on before. And Leah is the author of Lawless, How the Supreme Court runs on conservative grievance,
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