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The Lawfare Podcast

Lawfare is Dead! Long Live Lawfare!

The Lawfare Podcast

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2015

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

The Daily Beast's Shane Harris takes stages a coup, takes over the podcast, and interviews temporarily-deposed host Benjamin Wittes about the new website Lawfare is unveiling next week and the development of Lawfare that took a small blog to this new place.  

 

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0:00.0

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0:14.7

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0:18.3

Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, lawfair

0:25.6

no bull and the aftermath.

0:29.9

Right, so this was the catalyst for the development.

0:34.3

We had been planning and thinking about how we were going to do this for some time, but

0:39.5

it was a kind of backburner set of long-term ambitions.

0:44.2

And then, in starting in December, I think of 2013 and continuing for some of the most

0:52.1

frustrating months of my professional life, every few days or every few hours depending

0:58.3

on when the site would go down.

1:01.0

So the answer to the question of what happened is I still don't know.

1:03.8

You know, I made a decision at some point that the forensic process of figuring out what

1:09.8

was going on was actually much less important than figuring out how to get it under control.

1:15.4

And so there were two levels of attack.

1:18.8

One was a relatively crude set of denial of service attacks that at some point escalated

1:26.3

into more sophisticated and more distributed denial of service attacks.

1:30.5

First, they were all coming from one server or one set of servers and those were relatively

1:36.4

easy to block.

1:37.5

And then one day, I think in February of last year, all of a sudden it was coming from

1:43.4

everywhere.

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