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The Lawfare Podcast

Ben Powell Interviews Jim Comey

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🗓️ 30 May 2015

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Last week, FBI Director James Comey spoke at the 3rd Annual Cybersecurity Law Institute, hosted by Georgetown University Law Center in cooperation with the American Bar Association Cybersecurity Legal Task Force, Bloomberg BNA, and the Center for Internet SecuritBenjamin Powell, a partner at WilmerHale, interviewed Director Comey.

 

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no bull and the aftermath.

0:33.5

I think Fairminded people have to recognize that there are tremendous benefits to a society

0:38.2

from encryption.

0:39.7

There are tremendous costs to a society from universal strong encryption.

0:43.7

And how do we think about that?

0:45.2

A group of tech companies and some prominent folks wrote a letter to the president yesterday

0:50.8

that I frankly found depressing because their letter contains no acknowledgement that

0:58.3

there are societal costs to universal encryption.

1:01.1

Look, I recognize the challenges facing our tech companies, competitive challenges, regulatory

1:05.7

challenges overseas, all kinds of challenges.

1:08.1

I recognize the benefits of encryption.

1:11.2

But I think Fairminded people also have to recognize the costs associated with that.

1:16.0

And so I read this letter and I think these folks don't see what I see or they're not

1:19.5

fair minded and either one of those things is depressing to me.

1:22.7

So I just got to continue to have the conversation.

1:24.5

I don't know the answer, but I don't think a democracy should drift to a place where suddenly

1:29.7

your law enforcement people say, well, actually we, the Fourth Amendment is an awesome thing,

1:33.9

but we actually can't access any information.

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