Lawfare Daily: Two Courts Rule Against Trump’s IEEPA Tariffs, with Peter Harrell

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🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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For today’s episode, Lawfare General Counsel and Senior Editor Scott R. Anderson sat down with Contributing Editor and leading sanctions expert Peter Harrell to talk over the not one but two judicial rulings that enjoined President Trump's tariffs last week.

They discussed the similarities and differences between the two rulings, what seems likely to happen on appeal, and what it all might mean for the other, more well-established uses the executive branch makes of the 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), including its myriad longstanding sanctions regimes.

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1:35.8	I think what you see is all three of them sort of saying, well, look, Congress could not, with IEPA,
1:43.3	simply have delegated all of its tariff authority to the president
1:48.6	to basically do any tariffs at any rate on any product on any country for any duration,
1:53.2	which is essentially what the government is arguing.
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2:01.3	I'm senior editor Scott R. Anderson, joined by contributing editor and leading sanctions expert Peter Harrell.
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