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Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, May 16

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🗓️ 19 May 2025

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

In a live conversation on May 16, Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Senior Editors Anna Bower, Quinta Jurecic, and Roger Parloff and Lawfare Legal Fellow James Pearce to discuss legal challenges against President Trump’s executive actions, including the Friday hearing in the Abrego Garcia litigation, the Supreme Court’s ruling in an Alien Enemies Act case, oral arguments at the Supreme Court over President Trump’s birthright citizenship executive order, and so much more.You can find information on legal challenges to Trump administration actions here.

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and The Aftermath.

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I found it very interesting that there was relatively no discussion of the underlying

0:40.3

merits of the birthright citizenship question.

0:43.5

It's the Lawfare podcast.

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I'm Benjamin Wittes, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief here with legal fellow James Pierce

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and Lawfare senior editors Anna Bauer, Quinta Jurecic, and Roger Parloff.

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In a live recording on May 16th, we discussed the many legal challenges against President

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Trump's executive actions, including action in the Supreme Court in an Alien Enemies Act case and arguments in the

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birthright citizenship case, as well as Friday's hearing in the Abrago-Garcia litigation.

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We also talked about immigration cases, agency dismantling, and so much more.

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Like Justice Kagan saying, assume that you are dead wrong on the underlying merits,

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what does that mean for the universal injunction question?

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Folks, welcome to this week's Lawfare Live.

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I'm Benjamin Wittes, editor-in-chief of Lawfare, here in the Blazing Sunlight Studio.

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I'm joined by Roger Parloff in the Scantz Studio,

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Quinta Jurecic in the Ansel Adams studio,

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James Pierce in the Cathedral Studio.

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Is that what we're calling it, James?

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