Lawfare Archive: Human Rights Abuses in Saudi Arabia with Joey Shea

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🗓️ 18 May 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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From September 26, 2023: On August 21, the Human Rights Watch released a report detailing systematic abuses of Ethiopian migrants and asylum seekers at the Saudi Arabia-Yemen border. Researchers interviewed dozens of Ethiopian migrants and asylum seekers and found that Saudi border guards had used explosive weapons on them and shot migrants at close range.

Lawfare’s Associate Editor of Communications Anna Hickey sat down with Joey Shea, a researcher in the Middle East and North Africa Division of Human Rights Watch who investigates human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. They discussed the Human Rights Watch recent report, how the international community has responded so far, and the human rights record of Prince Mohammed bin Salman since he ascended the throne in 2015.

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1:18.6	from the Lawfare Archive for May 18, 2025.
1:22.6	This week, President Donald Trump visited Saudi Arabia as part of a four-day tour of the Arab Gulf states,
1:28.3	where he received a personal welcome from Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
1:33.3	While Trump had shun some of the United States' traditional allies,
1:37.3	he celebrated their relationship between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia,
1:41.3	calling it, quote, a bedrock of security and prosperity.
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