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Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, Dec. 19

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🗓️ 22 December 2025

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

In a live conversation on YouTubeLawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Senior Editors Anna Bower, Molly Roberts, and Eric Columbus and Lawfare Public Service Fellow Loren Voss to discuss the government’s failure to re-indict New York Attorney General Letitia James, a jury finding Judge Hannah Dugan guilty of obstructing immigration agents, a legal challenge to the White House ballroom construction, and more.You can find information on legal challenges to Trump administration actions here. And check out Lawfare’s new homepage on the litigation, new Bluesky account, and new WITOAD merch.To receive ad-free podcasts, become a Lawfare Material Supporter at www.patreon.com/lawfare. You can also support Lawfare by making a one-time donation at https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute.

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0:00.0

It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Benjamin Wittes, editor-in-chief of Lawfare, with Lawfare

0:10.9

senior editors, Anna Bauer, Molly Roberts, and Eric Columbus, and public service fellow, Lauren

0:17.6

Laws. In the December 19th episode of the trials of the Trump administration, we talked about

0:23.9

the government's failure to re-indict New York Attorney General Letitia James.

0:28.8

We talked about a jury finding that Judge Hannah Dugin is guilty of obstructing immigration

0:35.9

agents.

0:37.0

We talked about legal challenges to the White House ballroom construction, and so very much more.

0:46.0

It is Friday, the 19th day of December 2025.

0:53.6

It is 4 o'clock p.m. in Washington. You watching Lawfare Live.

1:01.5

I'm Benjamin Wittes, editor-in-chief of Lawfare, and I am here with four, three Lawfare Senior Editors and one Lawfare Public Service Fellow,

1:16.9

Anna Bauer, Eric Columbus, Molly Roberts, and Lauren Voss.

1:22.5

And we are talking, this is our last Lawfare Live, regularly scheduled anyway, Lawfare Live of the year.

1:32.4

We will not be having a show next week.

1:35.8

We will probably be having a show on January 2nd, but we don't know that for sure.

1:41.2

So we may actually go three whole weeks without a lawfare live.

1:47.9

We are going to start with Dan Richmond, who has had a better week than Lindsay Halligan has,

1:54.6

Anna Bauer. We're going to talk about both of their weeks, but we're going to start with

1:58.9

Dan Richmond. Anna, bring us up to speed. He kind of

2:04.8

pulled off a bit of a stunt. Yeah. I mean, it's honestly fascinating. And I'm looking forward to,

2:15.8

I know, Orrin Care is, I think, planning to write on this at some point about the Fourth Amendment stuff.

2:22.7

It's a really fascinating area of law.

2:25.2

But beyond that, it has major potential implications for the Comey case.

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