Lawfare Daily: The Privacy Law That's Supposed To Be Protecting Us Online Turns 40
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🗓️ 3 April 2026
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
The Electronic Communications Privacy Act, which is designed to protect users' privacy—including privacy online—turned 40 this year. On March 6, Lawfare hosted an event at Georgetown Law marking the event and featuring panel discussions with the authors of our paper series, Installing Updates to ECPA, in which experts from various disciplines reflected on the law, what’s changed over the last 40 years, and how ECPA should be updated to meet today’s realities. On today's podcast, we're sharing the opening remarks from that event, featuring legendary Supreme Court advocate Michael Dreeban, who argued many of the landmark ECPA cases. He talked about where ECPA came from and how it evolved, how it relates to the 4th Amendment, and where the law stands now. You can watch the entire event and read the paper series on our website here.
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| 0:00.0 | What the court did after the Stored Communications Act with Fourth Amendment cases, as technology |
| 0:08.8 | continued to leap forward and Congress did not do much, was kind of what I would describe as a |
| 0:14.6 | sort of Fourth Amendment remodeling project. |
| 0:17.8 | It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Natalie Orppat, executive editor of Lawfare. Today we're bringing |
| 0:23.7 | you something a little different. Audio from our recent event, installing updates to ECBA, |
| 0:29.6 | at which legendary Supreme Court advocate Michael Dreuben gave opening remarks. |
| 0:34.7 | The Fourth Amendment principle from Katz is that which a person knowingly exposes to the |
| 0:43.0 | public is not a subject of reasonable expectations of privacy or privacy expectations that |
| 0:50.6 | society is prepared to recognize as reasonable. But what you, what you protect as private |
| 0:56.7 | in your home is. We held the event to mark the 40th anniversary of ECBA, the Electronic |
| 1:04.0 | Communications Privacy Act. It built on our paper series, in which experts from various disciplines |
| 1:09.9 | reflected on the law, what's |
| 1:11.9 | changed over the last 40 years, and how ECBA should be updated to meet today's realities. |
| 1:18.0 | You can find those papers at our website, lawfaremedia.org. |
| 1:22.0 | But we wanted to share Michael's remarks here on the podcast. |
| 1:25.6 | They're an excellent overview of where ECPA came from and how it evolved, |
| 1:29.6 | how it relates to the Fourth Amendment, and where the law stands now. Thank you for inviting me |
| 1:36.6 | to talk to you about the backdrop to ECPA, the guarantee that goes back to the 18th century. So when we talk about updating |
| 1:48.6 | ECPA, which is 40 years old, I'm going to take us back in time to how the Supreme Court |
| 1:55.9 | seeks to update a guarantee that is more than two centuries old at this point and has a backdrop |
| 2:05.7 | that is very different from modern technology. I do want to say at the outset that I will talk |
| 2:13.3 | about some of the cases that I argued. Some of the people in the room helped me very much |
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