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Lawfare Daily: The New U.N. Security Council Resolution on Trump’s Gaza Peace Plan, with Amb. Jeffrey Feltman and Joel Braunold

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🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

For today’s episode, Lawfare Senior Editor Scott R. Anderson sits down with Joel Braunold, Managing Director of the S. Daniel Abraham Center for Middle East Peace and a Lawfare contributing editor, and Ambassador Jeffrey Feltman, the John C. Whitehead Visiting Fellow in International Diplomacy at the Brookings Institution, who previously served as Undersecretary General for Political Affairs at the United Nations as well as the Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, among other senior U.S. diplomatic positions.

They discuss Resolution 2803, which the U.N. Security Council adopted earlier this week to endorse and help implement President Trump’s peace plan for Gaza, including how it conforms and departs from usual international practice, what it says about the political positions of the various parties involved in the peace plan, and how it may (or may not) help contribute to an enduring end to the broader conflict—as well as a possible path to Palestinian self-determination.

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0:00.0

Nearly every news alert in 2025 has raised questions, some old, some new, about the law and national security.

0:08.0

And now you get the chance to ask Lawfare directly. It's time for our annual Ask Us Anything Mailbag podcast, an opportunity for you to ask Lawfare this year's most burning questions.

0:19.0

You can submit your question by leaving a voicemail at

0:22.1

202-643-8474 or by sending a recording of yourself asking your question to Ask Us Anything Lawfare

0:32.8

at gmail.com by December 16th.

0:38.3

Look, my most likely scenario of what will probably happen in the end, right, is we'll have

0:44.4

ISF on the border, not in the towns.

0:48.1

I just, I can't imagine.

0:49.6

Now, whether that's on the yellow border where Israel currently is and then it slowly moves

0:53.5

backwards, or whether that starts on the bigger border, I currently is and then it slowly moves backwards,

0:58.5

or whether that starts on the bigger border, I'm not sure. I think that probably, it depends on if they can get funders to fund in the Israeli side of Gaza if there isn't an agreement

1:04.4

with Thomas. It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm senior editor Scott R. Anderson, joined by Joel

1:10.6

Bronald, managing director of the S. Daniel

1:12.3

Abraham Center for Middle East Peace, and Ambassador Jeffrey Feldman, currently at the Brookings

1:16.8

Institution, but previously under Secretary General for Political Affairs at the United Nations, as well

1:21.4

as an assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs. And it's very hard to imagine that

1:26.9

even if there is a political process with some kind of

1:29.6

disarmament, DDR, decommissioning, lawfus, et cetera, that it will be sufficient to meet

1:34.5

the Israeli demands. The Israelis are going to make the perfect, the enemy of the good. And we don't

1:39.7

have good yet, but even if we do. Today, we are talking about the new UN Security Council resolution embracing President

1:46.0

Trump's peace plan for Gaza and what it might mean for the broader conflict.

1:51.0

So Ambassador, I wanted to start with you.

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