Lawfare Daily: Rachel Maddow Talks McCarthy, Fascism, and Ultra

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🗓️ 13 August 2024

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sits down with MSNBC talk show host Rachel Maddow, creator of the new podcast series, Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra, Season II. They discuss the ideological aftermath of World War II on the American far right, the rise of Sen. Joe McCarthy, and the rhetorically incredible cast of characters around him. Why do we remember McCarthy merely as a fierce anticommunist demagogue and not as a neo-Nazi?

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1:25.0	There is a deeply anti-American core to this what they try to make manifest as a sort of super patriotism. And in this era we can see it I think in very stark relief because they weren't
1:32.0	anti-American in the abstract.
1:34.7	They were anti-American in the context of America fighting Germany.
1:39.6	It's the Law Fair podcast.
1:41.3	I'm Benjamin Wittis, editor-in-chief of Law Fair, with Rachel Madow.
1:47.0	The superpower that these guys appear to have is that it seems like nothing in the system constrains them and that they're bigger than the system and that therefore they give all this hope to the people who want to destroy the system.
1:59.0	Well, the system needs to disprove that and bring them back to size.
2:04.0	Today we're talking about Rachel Madau's latest
2:08.0	podcast series, The Second Season of Rachel Madow presents Ultra.
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