Chatter: Reconceptualizing National Security with Gina Bennett
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 13 August 2024
⏱️ 96 minutes
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Summary
Gina Bennett had a remarkable intelligence career of more than three decades, focusing on counterterrorism even before the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993 and continuing to apply that expertise long after 9/11. She has written a book about how national security and parenting lessons reinforce each other, taught students at Georgetown University, and mentored women entering national security careers.
She joined David Priess to talk about her path into and through the intelligence community, the evolution of counterterrorism analysis since the late 1980s, motherhood and work pressures, the value of teaching, how security studies ignores lessons from more than 99 percent of human history, why a hunter-gatherer perspective illuminates security challenges better than traditional views, the limits of bumper sticker takeaways from 9/11 like "failure of imagination" and "didn't connect the dots," and more.
Works mentioned in this episode:
The book National Security Mom by Gina Bennett
The TV miniseries Catch me a Killer
The article "Of Lice and Men: America Needs to Rethink Its National Security Paradigm," Georgetown Security Studies Review (February 2024), by Gina Bennett
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| 1:17.0 | Welcome to Chatter. I'm David Priest. |
| 1:19.0 | This week, |
| 1:20.0 | Former Intelligence Officer and Author, Gina Bennett, on |
| 1:23.7 | conceptualizing national security. |
| 1:25.9 | You've got pieces that go to the puzzle, pieces that don't go to the puzzle. |
| 1:29.7 | If you get up from your seat and look at the puzzle from a quarter turn, |
| 1:35.0 | your brain no longer sees whatever image it was starting to build up in its head. |
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