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Lawfare Daily: Former Deputy Chief of the Justice Department's Capitol Siege Section Alexis Loeb on President Trump's Pardons

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🗓️ 23 January 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Alexis Loeb, the former Deputy Chief of the Capitol Siege Section of the Department of Justice, sits down with Lawfare Senior Editor Roger Parloff to talk about President Trump's blanket pardons and commutations for everyone her unit prosecuted. 

She discusses how she became involved with the cases; how they were handled by prosecutors, judges, and juries; a couple of cases she personally prosecuted; and her views on the impact of Trump's pardon proclamation.

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The pardons undermine the rule of law. This was an attack on the peaceful transfer of power.

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The pardons send a message that it's okay to commit violence

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if you're committing violence on behalf of the right person. And I think that the pardons all

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make us less safe today. They make America less safe today. It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Roger Parloff, senior editor at Lawfare, and I'm with Alexis Loeb,

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