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The Lawfare Podcast

Lawfare Daily: Corruption, Coverups, and Crisis in Domestic Ukrainian Politics

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🗓️ 15 May 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Ukraine Fellow Anastasiia Lapatina sits down with Danylo Mokryk, a war crimes investigator at the Kyiv Independent and the author of a YouTube blog about domestic Ukrainian Politics, to talk about the latest corruption saga engulfing the Ukrainian government—and why, despite so many arrows pointing toward Zelensky personally, no one is calling for his removal.

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She apparently knows about him and about his role in this whole process.

1:35.1

And this leads strongly to believe that, well, President Zelensky was at least through his bodyguard implicated in all of this.

1:38.5

It's the Lawfare podcast.

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My name is Anastasia Lapatina, Ukraine fellow at Lawfare, with Danilo Mokrek, a war crimes investigator at the Kymidependent, and the author of a blog about domestic Ukrainian politics, Mokrak.

1:53.5

You know, when it comes to Ukraine's interests in the state of war as a country.

2:01.6

He is doing a decent job about it.

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And we don't know that someone would do it

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