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There's no sort of state of nature that this uncertainty could bring us back to.

So the question is, under a state of uncertainty, do we like the regulatory framework

we currently have or do we want to build a different one?

It's the Law Fair Podcast.

I'm Alan Rosenstein, associate professor

at the University of Minnesota Law School

and senior editor at Law Fair.

Co-hosting with Matt Peralt,

the director of the Center on Technology Policy

at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

We're talking with Alexander McGillibri, known to all as Amac, who was the former Principal

Deputy Chief Technology Officer of the United States and the Biden administration and general counsel at Twitter.

I mean it won't surprise you to hear that I'm of neither camp in terms of it being completely protected versus completely unprotected.

I do think we are going to have a lot of trouble with some of the types of regulation that certainly many people have been calling for.

AIMAC recently wrote a piece for law fair about making AI policy in a world of technological uncertainty,

and Matt and I talked to him about how to do just that.

So you served as principal deputy chief technology officer in the Biden administration and

as deputy CEO in the Obama administration.

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