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The Lawfare Podcast

Chatter: Rocky Mountain High with Courtney Kube and Gordon Lubold

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2024

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

This week, we’re at the Aspen Security Forum, the annual gathering of national security and foreign policy heavyweights. The conference regularly draws senior government and military officials from the United States and around the world to chew over the big issues of the day, and this time we had a full plate. 


It’s not exactly hardship duty escaping to a glamorous mountain paradise. But the real world hardly felt far away. Questions linger about the November elections and the security failure that led to the assassination attempt on Donald Trump while two wars grind on with no clear sign of stopping. 


Shane Harris sat down with his colleagues Courtney Kube of NBC News and Gordon Lubold of The Wall Street Journal to talk about the highlights of the conference and what people discussed on the sidelines, where the real action often happens.


Watch recordings of the security forum panels. https://www.aspensecurityforum.org/ 


Read more from our guests. 


Courtney Kube: https://www.nbcnews.com/author/courtney-kube-ncpn3621 


Gordon Lubold: https://www.wsj.com/news/author/gordon-lubold 


Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Noam Osband of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.



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The famous five were away on a splendid weekend adventure.

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Do we have to go home today? sighed Anne.

0:38.4

I agree said Dick. Even Timmy looks sad.

0:41.6

Cheer up everyone, Beams Julian, I booked long weekender tickets.

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We can return any time on Monday.

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Oh, you are clever Julian, said Anne, save over 50% with the long weekend a ticket from Great Western Railway.

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Adventures start here. Selected routes terms apply. Saving in comparison to an anytime return fair.

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This is Chatter. I'm Shane Harris. This week we're on the road at the Aspen Security Forum.

1:13.7

I grabbed a microphone and sat down with my colleagues Courtney Kubi of NBC News

1:18.9

and Gordon Lubold of the Wall Street Journal to talk all about this annual gathering of national security

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leaders high up in the Rocky Mountains.

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What's fascinating is it comes a week after NATO and oh Ukraine and it's Ukraine's decision and stuff but on the

1:35.6

sidelines at that I picked up more and more conversation about people saying

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how many more Ukrainians are gonna die for another mile a square mile of land.

1:46.0

And I literally don't say fake news even as a joke because I just feel like it's completely wrong and miss that

1:55.6

particular term is like way overused and anyway it was an accurate begin with.

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