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Lawfare Archive: 'National Security, Leaks and Freedom of the Press'

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🗓️ 22 April 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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From April 20, 2021: Jack Goldsmith sat down with Lee Bollinger, the president of Columbia University, and Geoffrey Stone, the Edward H. Levy Distinguished Service Professor at the University of Chicago Law School, to discuss their new book, "National Security, Leaks and Freedom of the Press: The Pentagon Papers Fifty Years On." They discussed the holding and legacy of the Pentagon Papers case, as well as some of the many challenges of applying the Pentagon Papers regime in the modern digital era that is characterized by massive leaks and a very different press landscape than the one that prevailed in 1971.

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Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair

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or no bull and the aftermath.

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I'm John Emmins, intern at LawFair, with an episode from the LawFair Archive for April

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22, 2023.

0:46.7

As the national security establishment reels from a recent leak by an American service

0:50.0

member of highly classified finished intelligence regarding the war in Ukraine, I selected an

0:54.3

episode from April 2021 in which Jack Goldsmith sat down with Lee Ballinger and Jeffrey Stone

0:59.6

to discuss their new book, National Security Leaks and Freedom of the Press, the Petagon

1:04.2

Papers 50 years on.

1:05.7

They discuss the legacy of the Petagon Papers and the challenges of applying its presidents

1:09.6

to the massive leaks and very different media landscape of our times.

1:12.6

I'm Jack Goldsmith and this is the LawFair podcast.

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I'm Jack Goldsmith and this is the LawFair podcast, April 20, 2021.

1:27.4

I sat down with Lee Ballinger, the president of Columbia University and Jeffrey Stone,

1:32.3

the Edward H. Levy Distinguished Service Professor at the University of Chicago Law School

1:37.4

to discuss their new book, National Security Leaks and Freedom of the Press, the Petagon

1:43.4

Papers 50 years on.

1:45.2

We discuss the holding and legacy of the Petagon Papers case as well as some of the many

1:50.6

challenges of applying the Petagon Papers regime in the modern digital era that is characterized

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