Lawfare Archive: Jim Sciutto on ‘The Shadow War’
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🗓️ 27 April 2024
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Summary
From June 15, 2019: Russian and Chinese leaders understand that they’re unlikely to win a shooting war with the United States, but they have other ways to challenge Western interests, turning our greatest strengths—open societies, dominance of technology on Earth and in space, and military innovation—into weaknesses.
CNN anchor and chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto calls it “the shadow war,” and it’s the subject of his new book of the same name. David Priess sat down with Jim to talk about these asymmetric threats to national security, and what the United States and its allies can do to fight back.
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| 0:16.4 | slash Lawfair. Also check out Lawfair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, lawfare with an episode from the Lawfare Archive for April 27th, |
| 0:44.7 | 2024. On April 25th, President Joe Biden signed a $95 billion |
| 0:50.0 | aid package to reaffirm US support towards Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. |
| 0:55.6 | The aid package, which struggled to pass through Congress for months, recently received |
| 0:59.8 | overwhelming approval in the House and Senate. |
| 1:07.8 | $60.8 billion, which is two-thirds of the aid package, is going towards Ukraine. |
| 1:15.9 | The aid package undoubtedly challenges Russian and Chinese interests and solidifies the U.S.'s foreign policy objectives in the geopolitical arena. |
| 1:18.2 | For today's episode, I chose an episode from June 15, 2019. In the episode, David Priest sat down with Jim Shuto to talk about his book, The Shadow War, which dives into the ways that Russian and Chinese leaders challenge Western interests as opposed to |
| 1:34.4 | fighting a shooting war. They discuss the asymmetric threats to national security, |
| 1:39.4 | what the United States and its allies can do to fight back and more. podcast for June 15th, 2019. |
| 1:53.6 | Russian and Chinese leaders understand that they are unlikely to win a shooting war |
| 1:57.7 | with the United States. |
| 1:59.4 | But they have other ways to challenge Western interests, |
| 2:02.2 | turning our greatest strengths, open societies, |
| 2:05.2 | dominance of technology on Earth and in space, and military innovation into weaknesses. |
| 2:11.4 | CNN anchor and chief national security correspondent Jim Shuto calls it |
| 2:15.5 | the Shadow War and it's the subject of his new book of the same name. I recently sat down with |
| 2:21.1 | Jim to talk about these asymmetric threats to national security |
| 2:24.7 | and what the United States and its allies can do to fight back. It's the Law Fair Podcast |
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