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🗓️ 1 March 2025
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From March 14, 2022: Russia's war of aggression in Ukraine has undermined some of the fundamental assumptions underlying the security of Europe through much of the post-World War II era. As a result, several European nations have begun to consider dramatic changes in how they approach national security, both individually and collectively.
To better understand how the war in Ukraine is reshaping the European security order, Scott R. Anderson sat down with two of his colleagues from the Brookings Institution: Célia Belin, a visiting fellow at Brookings and a former official in the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and Constanze Stelzenmüller, the Fritz Stern Chair on Germany and trans-Atlantic Relations in the Center on the United States and Europe.
They discussed how the Ukraine conflict is reshaping Europe's approach to security affairs, what this means for institutions like the European Union and NATO, and how these changes are likely to impact the fundamental debate over what it means to be a part of Europe.
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0:47.3 | This week, on the third anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Lawfare launched |
0:53.3 | escalation, a new narrative podcast series |
0:56.5 | which chronicles the twists and turns in the complicated relationship between the United States and |
1:02.0 | Ukraine, and lays bare the stakes of the Russia-Ukraine war. Escalation also comes amid Vice President |
1:08.9 | J.D. Vance's controversial speech at the Munich Security |
1:12.2 | Conference, which led leaders such as French President Emmanuel Macron and newly elected |
1:18.0 | German Chancellor Friedrich Mertz to call for a new approach to European security, one that |
1:23.9 | does not rely on the U.S. |
1:26.3 | For today's archive episode, I selected an episode from March 14, |
1:30.3 | 2022, in which Celia Berlin and Constanza Steltsin-Muller |
1:34.3 | joined Scott R. Anderson to discuss how the Russian War of Aggression in Ukraine |
1:39.3 | is reshaping Europe's approach to security affairs. |
1:42.3 | They talked about what this means for institutions like the |
1:45.2 | European Union and NATO, how those changes are likely to impact the fundamental debate over |
1:51.1 | what it means to be a part of Europe, and more. |
2:03.3 | I'm Lawfare Senior Editor Scott R. Anderson. |
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