Lawfare Archive: HASC Hearing on Outside Perspectives on the AUMF
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🗓️ 28 November 2021
⏱️ 98 minutes
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Summary
From February 28, 2015: On Thursday of this week, Lawfare’s Benjamin Wittes and Bobby Chesney, along with General Jack Keane, appeared before the House Armed Services Committee to provide “Outside Perspectives on the President’s Proposed Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.”
The hearing grappled with a number of difficult and vitally necessary questions: What exactly does "enduring ground combat operations" mean? Should the AUMF sunset after three years? And, does a new AUMF accomplish anything if it is not tied to the existing authorities present in the 2001 AUMF? The discussion delved deeply into the President’s proposed AUMF, its merits and its flaws, and how those failings can be addressed.
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains advertising. |
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| 0:14.0 | That's patreon.com slash law fair. |
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| 0:22.0 | rational security, chatter, law fair no bull, and the aftermath. |
| 0:29.0 | I'm Emily Day and this is an episode from the LawFair Archives for November 28th, 2021. |
| 0:45.0 | There's been a lot of talk recently on repealing the 2002 Iraq War solution or the AUMF |
| 0:50.0 | in requiring President Biden or any future president to get new authorization from Congress |
| 0:54.0 | to lodge military operations in Iraq. |
| 0:57.0 | To give more context on the matter, I chose an episode from February 28th, 2015, |
| 1:02.0 | in which LawFair's Benjamin Wittis and Bobby Chesney, along with General Jack Keane, |
| 1:06.0 | appeared before the House Armed Services Committee to write outside perspective |
| 1:10.0 | regarding the Obama administration's proposed AUMF against ISIL. |
| 1:13.0 | You talk about the president's proposed AUMF, its merits and its flaws, |
| 1:17.0 | and how those failings can be addressed. |
| 1:20.0 | I'm Sebastian Brady and this is the LawFair podcast, February 28th, 2015. |
| 1:28.0 | That was Benjamin Wittis, you just heard, editor-in-chief of LawFair in a senior fellow |
| 1:33.0 | at the Brookings Institution. |
| 1:35.0 | This week, Ben, along with LawFair's Bobby Chesney and General Jack Keane, |
| 1:39.0 | appeared before the House Armed Services Committee to provide outside perspectives |
| 1:43.0 | on the president's proposed authorization for the use of military force against ISIL. |
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