Lawfare Archive: Cybersecurity Futures
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🗓️ 4 March 2023
⏱️ 43 minutes
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From December 7, 2019: Wargaming has long been a staple of military strategizing, but how do we plan for the future in cyberspace, a realm where governments do not hold a monopoly on capabilities? A new report from the Atlantic Council argues that "visualizing and describing the evolution of cyber capabilities and strategic competition require envisioning multiple futures," and the report sets out to do exactly that. This week, Lawfare's Susan Hennessey sat down with John Watts, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council's Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security, and JD Work, the Bren Chair for Cyber Conflict and Security at the Marine Corps University, who are authors of "Alternate Cybersecurity Futures," along with Nina Kollars, Ben Jensen, and Chris Whyte. They talked about the behind-the-scenes of strategic policy planning, the value of creativity, and what scenarios emerge when you ask cybersecurity experts to predict the future.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:39.4 | I'm Avery Schmitz, intern at LawFair with an episode from the LawFair Archive for March |
| 0:44.7 | 4, 2023. |
| 0:47.3 | This week, the Biden Harris administration released its new national cybersecurity strategy, |
| 0:53.1 | which proposes recommendations to address emerging challenges in cyberspace. |
| 0:57.9 | Preparing to face these challenges, cybersecurity experts have reconfigured their strategic |
| 1:02.6 | outlooks on the basis of war gaming. |
| 1:05.2 | For today's Archive episode, I chose an interview from December 7, 2019, in which |
| 1:10.7 | Susan Hennessey sat out with John Watts and J.D. work to lift the curtain on these intricacies |
| 1:17.0 | of strategic policymaking. |
| 1:19.2 | In the episode, they discussed the value of creative problem solving in cyber policy, |
| 1:24.5 | future cybersecurity challenges, and more. |
| 1:29.5 | I'm Jacob Schultz and this is the LawFair podcast December 7, 2019. |
| 1:43.5 | Wargaming has long been a staple military strategizing, but how do we plan for the future |
| 1:48.3 | in cyberspace? |
| 1:49.3 | A realm where governments do not hold monopoly on capabilities. |
| 1:53.2 | A new report from the Atlanta Council argues that, quote, describing the evolution of |
| 1:57.8 | cyber capabilities and strategic competition require envisioning multiple futures and |
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