Lawfare Archive: Chip Brantley and Andrew Beck Grace on White Lies
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🗓️ 16 January 2023
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
From August 17, 2019: Andrew Beck Grace and Chip Brantley are the creators of the NPR podcast audio documentary White Lies, which deals with the murder of Rev. James Reeb in Selma, Alabama, during the Civil Rights Era. The podcast is an incredible historical investigation of an episode that many people had forgotten, and resonates remarkably in contemporary discussions of domestic terrorism, white supremacist violence, and many other things we're still talking about today.
Benjamin Wittes talked with Andrew and Chip about how to tell the story of a murder that happened a long time ago, the FBI's role in investigating the crime at the time (what they did badly, and what they did right), and what it all says about terrorism today.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | I'm John Emmins with an episode from the LawFair Archive for January 16, 2023. |
| 0:45.4 | In honor of Martin Luther King Jr. Day, for today's Archive episode, I chose an episode |
| 0:49.0 | from August 2019, in which Benjamin Wittis sat down with Andrew Beck-Rays and Chip |
| 0:53.3 | Brantley, creators of the NPR audio documentary White Lies, which investigates the 1965 |
| 0:58.2 | murder of James Reeb by white segregationists in Selma, Alabama during the March from Selma |
| 1:02.4 | to Montgomery. |
| 1:03.4 | In this episode, they discuss the murder itself and the FBI's investigation into the |
| 1:07.2 | act of white supremacist violence, issues that remain relevant to national security, law |
| 1:11.6 | and civil rights today. |
| 1:20.6 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast August 17, 2019. |
| 1:29.2 | Andrew Beck-Rays and Chip Brantley are the creators of the NPR podcast audio documentary |
| 1:36.0 | White Lies. |
| 1:37.9 | The series, if you haven't listened to it, deals with the murder of Reverend James Reeb |
| 1:42.8 | in Selma, Alabama during the civil rights era and is an incredible historical investigation |
| 1:49.9 | of an episode that many people had forgotten. |
| 1:53.7 | I asked Andrew and Chip on the show because I thought their show had remarkable soundings |
| 2:00.5 | in contemporary discussions of domestic terrorism, of white supremacist violence, and |
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