Laurence Fishburne & James Hawes on The Amateur

Kermode & Mayo’s Take

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Tv & Film, Film Reviews, Tv Reviews, Film Interviews

4.4 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Vanguardistas have more fun—so if you don’t already subscribe to the podcast, join the Vanguard today via Apple Podcasts or extratakes.com for non-fruit-related devices. In return you’ll get a whole extra Take 2 alongside Take 1 every week, with bonus reviews, more viewing recommendations from the Good Doctors and whole bonus episodes just for you. And if you’re already a Vanguardista, we salute you. We have a real treat for you in the guest slot this week—director of ‘The Amateur’ James Hawes, and one of its stars Laurence Fishburne—AKA actual Morpheus from The Matrix. We are not worthy. Laurence plays Colonel Henderson, the grizzled CIA man tasked with training Rami Malek’s geeky decoder Charlie for the fieldwork he insists on undertaking in order to track down his wife’s terrorist killers. Simon chats to the actor and director about this smart action thriller, and its influences from Hawes’ Brit spy series ‘Slow Horses’ to Jason Bourne. We’ll hear stories from the set plus the pair’s thoughts on the theatre, The Matrix and Adolescence. Don’t miss this one. Mark reviews ‘The Amateur’, as well as ‘Drop’--a psycho-thriller wherein a widowed mother’s (Meghann Fahy) first date interrupted by sinister messages threatening to kill her son—unless she kills her dinner companion. Plus, we’ll get the Good Doctors’ verdict on ‘One to One: John & Yoko’, the latest from documentary maestro Kevin Macdonald charting the revolutionary couple’s post-Beatles days in New York. We’ll also be catching up with the movie-going phenomenon that is ‘A Minecraft Movie’, and deciding whether we’re going to let its legions of fans get away with all those code violations... Another week of Top Takes from Simon & Mark and top correspondence from you. Keep it coming! Timecodes (for Vanguardistas listening ad-free): Drop Review: 08:15 A Minecraft Movie Review: 19:53 Laurence Fishburne & James Hawes Interview: 29:48 The Amateur Review: 44:55 Laughter Lift: 52:43 One to One: John & Yoko Review: 55:24 You can contact the show by emailing [email protected] or you can find us on social media, @KermodeandMayo Please take our survey and help shape the future of our show: www.kermodeandmayo.com/survey EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/take Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! A Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts To advertise on this show contact: [email protected] And to find out more about Sony’s new show Origins with Cush Jumbo, click here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:21.1	Hey, Ben Bailey Smith here. I just want to tell you about some of the amazing stories that are coming to Netflix this month. All of them based on real-life events, each of them unique in different ways. I mean, you literally couldn't make them up. First, chaos Charles Manson, which is available now for streaming. This is a doc from Academy Award winner Errol Morris, who made the thin blue line in the fog of war. It's got really striking individual style and look to his work. And here, he investigates the story of Charles Manson and his cult in a totally fresh way that challenges everything you thought
0:25.1	you knew. That's what got me with this doc. I mean, we often hear the story of the Manson murders
0:29.2	themselves retold, but this is the first time I've seen a deep dive, not just into the origins
0:32.9	of the event itself, but also what part of the CIA, mental health services, probation services, even the
0:37.6	music industry had to play in this thing. It's genuinely eye-opening, even jaw-dropping at times.
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1:06.2	Before we begin, a quick reminder that you can become a Vanguard Easter and get an extra episode every
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1:35.5	And if you're already a Vanguard Easter,
1:38.6	we salute you.
1:40.9	We salute you.
1:49.5	Yeah. lute you. You know that bit,
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1:53.2	I don't know, does private eye,
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