Our common nature is a musical journey with Yo-Yo Ma and me, Ana Gonzalez, through this complicated country.

We go into caves, onto boats, and up mountain trails to meet people, hear their stories, their poetry, and of course, play some music, all to reconnect to nature and get closer to the things we're missing.

Listen to Our Common Nature from WNYC, wherever you get podcasts.

It's the Splendid Table from APM American Public Media.

I'm Lynne Rosetta-Casper.

Now, I don't want to tussle with experts about the healthy Mediterranean diet, but there's a clinker in the theory.

Supposedly for centuries people ate more plants than meat, and even poor folks used healthy olive oil.

Well, the clinker is the pig. Most people had one.

And if the poor had olive oil, they sold it to survive.

And they sold off parts of the pig, too, the sausage, the salami, the ham.

But the one thing they kept was the fat, the lard,

because it made anything taste better,

which is why, by the way, lard is trending right now.

So stay with us for pork goodness and much more this hour on the splendid table.

Music This hour on The Splendid Table. This is The Splendid Table from APM, American Public Media, the show for people who love to eat.

I'm Lynne Rosetta, Casper.

Chef's become famous for a lot of reasons.

Some you might question, but with others,

you always want to see

what they're doing next. Well, right now, the food world tracks Sean Brock's every move. He's the

chef of two restaurants in Charleston, Husk and McCrady's. Now, the reason for the tracking,

Sean is bringing back old, forgotten southern plants, ingredients, and dishes, and he's doing it brilliantly.

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