Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to Talk Shop. I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep

on their inspiration, on their process,

on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So whether you're a grizzled veteran,

drunk at a 4th of July party,

talking endlessly about the time you opened for warrant,

or else a scrappy upstart.

Also drunk at a 4th of July party

talking about the time you opened

for the guy who took third place in American Idol. This is your show because ultimately

it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey everybody, welcome to the show.

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