LABOUR TALK TUFF ON IMMMIGRATION - Feat. Pierre Novellie

What Most People Think with Geoff Norcott

Geoff Norcott

Comedy, News, News Commentary, Politics

4.6 • 1.7K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

The whip-smart Pierre Novellie returns to discuss Shabana apparently being in the Mahmoud to fix the home office. We also ask whether Trump bankrupting the BBC is such a great outcome after all, while also examining some of the emerging splits in MAGA. Then it's onto censorship, as establishment p**ck Paddington forces the removal of jokes about him.

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0:00.0	What most impulse.
0:13.8	Hello and welcome to this week's episode of what most people think.
0:16.7	We're recording at one o'clock on Monday.
0:19.3	You always know that political stuff is happening when podcast timestamp
0:22.3	just to kind of ensure themselves against a shitstorm occurring in the interim.
0:27.0	The shitstorm that occurred this Monday morning is that the Home Secretary,
0:31.3	Shabana Mahmoud, did another one of these early morning announcements about immigration,
0:36.0	which will get on to.
0:37.0	But our guest today, with a name
0:39.2	like Pierre Novelli, I'm thinking that there's some sort of immigration, maybe in your more
0:44.7	distant, medium past. I don't know. I can't remember. Are you South African, French? What the
0:50.0	fuck is going on? It's a French and Italian name and I'm from South Africa and my my mum's
0:57.8	parents were Scottish and English. So it's a sort of Western Europe in general, but African by
1:02.9	birth. In this climate, a guy like me aggressively interrogating you like that didn't sound
1:07.4	good from my point of view. The optics of that were not cool. I think the optics are fine because of how white I am. I think then when people are going
1:13.2	like, oh, yeah, that's okay. He's one of those Leonardo DiCaprio blood diamond lethal weapon
1:18.4	two guys. That's fine. Yeah, it's the okay racism that you can apply. Like South Africans,
1:24.2	the last, there are certain races that you can still get away of saying really bad shit about. Australians, South Africans, the last, there are certain races that you can still get away saying really bad shit about.
1:29.6	Australians, South Africans, the French just about.
1:33.5	You can do almost all of them in the right context, but I do find that I used to have a
1:38.2	stand-up routine that the irony is that I am an immigrant to the UK and the people who are the most like rude to me about where I'm from and like how where I was born and and and so on are always like pro immigration progressives. And it's because I'm a white South African. It got better for a bit. And then after Elon Musk went and did all this fucking Hitler salutes, then it got worse
2:01.3	again. So we're under suspicion. And fair enough, I guess. But Elon's really fucking ruining
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