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Hello and welcome to Puffy Howe Shots, the spectators' daily politics podcast.

I'm Cindy Yu and I'm joined by Kate Andrews and Joan Forsyth.

So tonight we will be expecting the first official Tory leadership hustings happening in

Leeds between Liz Truss and Richie Suneck and you can go all the analysis from that

on Coffee Howe's spectators website. James, one thing that will come up in tonight's

debate probably is about the energy crisis that's coming down the line because

our new forecast saying that basically people could be facing up to £3,000 increase

in their energy bills. Tell us about that.

Yeah so this is I think this is one of the biggest, I written the magazine this week about how

the new promise has the most daunting intray whoever it is. I think perhaps the most daunting

element in it is this double headed problem on energy which is one I think the price

gap is going to go up massively and I don't think that this leadership contest has yet

addressed what you have to do to deal with that size of problem for people and then I think the

second kind of element of this is that price gap is going to go up again in January most likely.

I mean there is no sign that energy prices are beginning to come down or tear off and this winter

you're going to see Russia trying to use the energy weapon against Europe which will put the

European regional energy prices which will catch the UK in this up to a very very high level

and I think this is one of the things which is what are the candidates going to do when faced with

an increase of this size because this increase is looking I mean I mean there was hopes when the

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