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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shot,

suspected daily politics podcast.

I'm Katie Balls, and I'm your advocate Andrews.

Now, we've had a change today from Rishi Sunak.

Some are calling it a U-turn.

Some are just saying it's a different way of looking at the world than perhaps

the first stage of his campaign.

The cars outside disagree with that analysis.

Yes, that was a protest as already protesting this podcast.

Now, Rishi Sunak has proposed a VAT cut on energy bills.

Before we get to what this means for his campaign, can you just talk us through

the specifics of the policy?

Sure, so he's put forward today a temporary one-off cut to VAT on energy bills,

and it is estimated that this would save your average households around 160 pounds a year.

Now, this was a lever that he was thinking about polling if we go back to February and May,

the two huge spending support packages that we had then to help with energy bills.

But the concern, when he was Chancellor, was that this would be a really easy target for

the labor party and others to say, well, this is actually just a handout for the wealthy,

because VAT is a tax on consumption, so the people who consume the most are paying the most VAT.

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