It's Brian Larosho on WNYC. Good morning again everyone. Friday already. The

Friday after Labor Day goes fast when we have a four-day week, right? And a

four-day week is one of the headline-making demands that the United

Auto Workers Union is making in its contract talks with the big automakers

and a possible strike moving as early as next week. A four-day work week, a

return to defined benefit pensions, not just 401Ks, or return to health

benefits for retirees in addition to a really big raise. And this is just the

latest strike or strike threat news this year as the labor movement makes

some significant surges and influence the UPS contract talks, the writers and

actor strikes, the nurses at various hospitals, Starbucks, Amazon, New York

City bus drivers on the verge of walking out and more. In New York City, the

Labor Day Parade comes the weekend after Labor Day. So in recognition of that

this weekend and with all this Labor news, we welcome back Jane McAlevy,

organizer, senior policy fellow at the University of California at Berkeley's

Institute for Research on Labor and Employment, columnist for the nation and

co-author of the 2023 book, Rules to Win by Power and Participation in Union

Negotiations. Jane, always great to have you on. Welcome back to WNYC.

Thank you, Brian. It is always good to be here.

Let me jump right in on the UAW. I'm struck by the way they want to change the

terms of the debate, including a return to some of the what we might consider

best practices of the past, not just ask for money, but you're the expert. What

do you make of it? Yeah, I think it's, I think it's exciting. I mean, the ones

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