Kyrsten Sinema Doesn't Care What You Think of Her
The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism
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🗓️ 17 June 2021
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
On this week’s episode of The Waves, Slate senior writer and host of Outward Christina Cauterucci and Julia Craven, Slate staff writer covering race, politics, and health disparities, talk about one woman: Kyrsten Sinema. From her wardrobe to her position on the filibuster, Sinema has been in the news a lot recently. The hosts talk about the Arizona senator’s political evolution—she moved from the Green Party to run as a progressive Democrat, but when she got to the U.S. Senate, she tacked toward the center—and whether she is currently exhibiting any signs of political coherence. Christina unpacks the high note of Sinema at the Capitol: her wardrobe, noting that the flashy fashions that once brought visual interest to the normally drab walls of Congress have taken a turn for the worse. As Sinema started to stymie Democratic plans, her “fuck off” ring and “dangerous creature” sweater took on a whole new meaning.
After the break, Julia and Christina dive deep into the filibuster. While standing in the way of the Democrats’ ability to pass almost any legislation at all, Sinema has spouted inaccurate narratives of how the filibuster came into being. Julia and Christina talk about her earlier vote for John Lewis as House leader, and try to square that with her current position, which is holding up voting-rights legislation. But Sinema doesn’t seem to be listening to most of the criticism she’s getting for her position, instead dismissing parts of it as merely sexist.Â
For Slate Plus members, Julia and Christina continue our new segment, Gateway Feminism, where they talk about one thing that helped make them feminists. For Julia, it’s her great-grandmother and her enduring belief that Julia could become anything she set her mind to. Christina started her career as a feminist when she revamped her co-ed soccar team jersey in protest of the team name: The Molar Men.Â
Recommendations
Christina recommends celebrating Pride Month by educating yourself about queer politics. She suggests watching a conversation between Amy Walter and Sasha Issenberg hosted by Politics and Prose.Â
Julia finally finished reading her first book in almost a year! She finished The Vanishing Half, by Brit Bennett, and highly recommends finishing books. But Julia holds zero judgment on wherever you are at in your reading journey.Â
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| 0:10.2 | This is the waves. |
| 0:14.3 | Hello and welcome to the waves, Slate's podcast about gender, feminism, and the senator with |
| 0:22.5 | the wacky wigs. Every episode, you get a new pair of women to talk about the thing we can't get |
| 0:28.6 | off our minds. And today, you've got me. I'm Christina Cotteroochie, a senior writer at Slate, |
| 0:34.8 | and host of Outward Slate's podcast about queer culture and politics. And I'm Julia Craven, a reporter here at Slate, and host of Outward Slate's podcast about queer culture and politics. |
| 0:39.1 | And I'm Julia Craven, a reporter here at Slate where I cover a whole bunch of fun stuff. |
| 0:44.1 | This week, we are talking about Kirsten Cinema, the senator from Arizona, who holds the fate of the Democratic agenda and maybe American democracy in her hands. I wanted the waves to talk |
| 0:57.1 | about cinema because she is a total enigma to me and to a lot of other people, both personally |
| 1:04.2 | and politically. I started writing about her a few years ago, mostly in the context of her wardrobe, which is very |
| 1:12.8 | unconventional for a senator. It's actually only gotten weirder since she got elected to the |
| 1:18.4 | Senate in 2018. During COVID, you might have seen she's been wearing these like neon colored |
| 1:25.2 | wigs since she wasn't able to go to a salon. |
| 1:27.7 | She said it was to help remind people to continue social distancing during COVID. |
| 1:33.4 | So I think, you know, for people who had no need to pay much attention to her before the Democrats took power in the Senate and before she started holding up her own party's agenda, her fashion sense, which is |
| 1:47.0 | totally crazy, and also the fact that she's a woman and the first openly bisexual member of |
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