This is the Beautiful Writers Podcast. I'm Danielle Lipport, and I'm here with Linda Sieverts,

where we are chatting with some of the most amazing authors, publishing leaders, and creatives.

Between the two of us, Linda and I have written something like 12 books, including our co-creation, your big beautiful book plan.

And we're here because we love this game.

We love everything about the publishing industry, about getting ideas out into the world and being as creative as you possibly can.

This all started with us interviewing some of our favorite agents and fellow authors

for a membership group that we have called The Beautiful Writers Group.

And because we don't believe friends should let their friends write alone,

we are sharing the interviews with you.

So for the next 45 minutes, because 45 minutes is a new hour, we will be digging deep and going for the light. Thank you. So for the next 45 minutes, because 45 minutes is a new hour, we will be digging deep

and going for the light. Welcome.

Hello, hello, everybody. Welcome. This is a big, beautiful writer's interview with myself,

Danielle Laporte, and Linda Severson,

and featured creative author, Angel rock star today is Kyle Gray. And off the top, we let you know where you can find all of us. So you can know that you can get me at Danielle Laport.com. Linda is always rocking it at bookmama.com. And you can find Kyle Gray. that's Kyle, K-Y-L-E, Gray with an A, G-R-A-G-R-A-Y-D-O-C-R-A-Y. And we're all over social media. So, Linda, hello, how are you? Hello, I'm terrific. And I can't wait for this interview. I've been reading his books and I am riveted. The reason everybody that we are bringing Kyle today is because

he's got the perfect melange. I'm feeling very French today, so I'm going to use, I'm going to

try to use this in French words as I can on today. It's a pretty melange of experience. So

Kyle, for me, is really fresh. Like, you're going to hear that Kyle as an individual is really exceptional

and has some very special gifts and that makes him very unique as a being. But in terms of the

creative industry, he's young. He has a number of books and now a growing line of Oracle decks

under his belt. He's a great example of someone who is

diversifying in their career, and I want to get into that about how Kyle is actually building

a platform and the various streams of income. So there's a lot here to unpack in a very short

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