This is the Beautiful Writers Podcast. I'm Danielle Lipport, and I'm here with Linda Sieverts,

where we are chatting with some of the most amazing authors, publishing leaders, and creatives.

Between the two of us, Linda and I have written something like 12 books, including our co-creation, your big beautiful book plan.

And we're here because we love this game.

We love everything about the publishing industry, about getting ideas out into the world and being as creative as you possibly can.

This all started with us interviewing some of our favorite agents and fellow authors

for a membership group that we have called The Beautiful Writers Group.

And because we don't believe friends should let their friends write alone,

we are sharing the interviews with you.

So for the next 45 minutes, because 45 minutes is a new hour, we will be digging deep and going for the light. Thank you. So for the next 45 minutes, because 45 minutes is a new hour, we will be digging deep

and going for the light. Welcome.

Hello, this is the beautiful writers group interview with bestselling author Gretchen

Rubin. And you're in conversation

with myself daniel leport and linda severson off the top you can find gretchen at gretchen rubin

dot com linda and i are always at the beautiful writers group dot com you know that i live at daniel

laport dot com and linda is always rocking it at bookmama dot com gretchenchen, we always start with a blessing, and it goes like this.

We're here now to give witness to a shared truth that absolutely everything is progress,

that we have all that we need, and that brilliance is unfolding here and now,

and by brilliance we mean light. And so it is.

Hello, hello, Gretchen.

Hello, I'm very happy to be talking to you. Oh, this is so much fun. We've been looking forward to this for a long time. I know you and Danielle have known each other for quite a long time. And I'm sort of new to this party, not new to your work, but, you know, just met you in person a couple of months ago

at the beginning of your tour

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