There is a place where consciousness exists outside of our bodies that some people have an apparent ability to access. What if it's not that hard to get there? Science and institutions have hand-waved away the inconvenience of an unphysical world. And this isn't about religion or spirituality. It's just about the fact that we're connected to something bigger. And if you believe that, you're not gullible or silly or ill-informed, you can be extraordinarily smart and intelligent and see that there's a non-physical world. And that might be the more scientific thing to do than to just ignore altogether. The Telepathy Tapes was the number one podcast in the world, launching Telepathy and Sy Phenomenon into public conversation. telepathy tapes host Kai Dickens joins us to uncover the controversy surrounding season

one and discuss how season two will convince even the most skeptical scientists that there's more to reality and consciousness than we've ever fathomed. We start hearing from a lot of nurses and doctors and caregivers who are saying, hey, this telepathy is not just when non-speakers is with people of Alzheimer's or strokes or arncomas oras or dementia in particular. There's something to do with not being as tethered to your physical form. We try to go find are there legit mediums? Can we scientifically prove it, vet them, look at them from every angle? Tell us what you are hoping season two of the telepathy tapes can achieve. I hope season two will prove that consciousness is fundamental. It is the most basic part of our universe. It became before all physical things. Consciousness survives the physical body and is engaging with us all the time whether we have a body or not. Have you opened up any of your own telepathic or intuitive abilities? Hi, I'm Maya Beallock. And I'm Jonathan Cohen. And welcome to our breakdown. This is an exclusive look at season two of the telepathy tapes and some of the biggest topics that are going to be covered that align to many of the conversations that we have been having on this podcast for the last year. If you haven't heard of the telepathy tapes, you can probably hear about it in about a dozen episodes where we reference conversations about what is possible to access outside of what we can see, touch, smell, and experience. The telepathy tapes was created by Kai Dickens, who we have in person here today to talk about some of the biggest lessons from season one of the telepathy tapes and what we can expect in season two, which is all about consciousness. What are the different ways that people can step outside of their bodies, be it in death from accidents, from Alzheimer's disease, and what can we learn about the places that you can go if you do not believe that your body is all that is you? There are some phenomenal and really unbelievable stories of people who have information and receive information that they could not possibly otherwise know. What's really important about this conversation that we have with Kai Dickens is that she doesn't presume to be able to explain everything that she has witnessed, everything that she has cataloged, or everything that we're going to see in the documentary that will be released next year or in season two. But we have a fantastic time talking with her about the limitations of materialism and the ways to best communicate with a larger audience, things like remote viewing, what happens when the brain starts shutting down and new abilities are acquired. We cover everything that's coming in season two as well as some pretty out there things that even she cannot yet explain. We discussed two different types of telepathy, which is fascinating, and also she describes the scientific experiments with rigorous scientists that are trying to prove to people that this is much more than a one-off phenomenon. Also, can plants communicate with us? Kai is going to tell us a very personal experience that points towards yes? As well as explaining that sciability and remote viewing specifically children can learn it very quickly. Take a second and subscribe anywhere you're listening or watching. We are so grateful to be doing these episodes and having these conversations and

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She's here in person with us. Kai Dickens. Welcome to the breakdown

Break it down. I have to say it's very very strange to have you in person because I know your voice very well. It's like it lives inside my head. I had never listened to a full podcast all the way through until I listened to the telepathy tapes. So I became intimately acquainted with your voice. And anyway, I am living my own episode of being inside of the telepathy tapes with your voice. I love that. It's a very exciting week as season two just dropped. Start us off by telling us what you are hoping season two of the telepathy tapes can achieve. After listening to season one, I hope most people left feeling a little uncertain about consciousness and the materialistic paradigm in which we live. And hopefully many people realize that there might be more going on like telepathy or just a deeper level of consciousness or communication that we're aware of in our physical bodies. And so if you love season one, feeling pretty convinced that telepathy is happening for some people, if not all of us on a very subtle way, I hope season two will prove that consciousness is fundamental. It is the most basic part of our universe. It became before all physical things and that consciousness survives the physical body and is engaging with us all the time whether we have a body or not. So I think that will be the takeaway from season two. So those are some pretty, those are very big goals of consciousness, right? So the first being consciousness is fundamental. The second that when the body dies, the vessel as it were, there is a place where consciousness exists and that in different ways we're always able to tap into that no matter what, right? Yes. Yes. And that consciousness is interacting with us all the time, which needs a lot of unpacking because it goes, just brings up a lot of questions. Like, is the universe intelligent and has a plan or not? Yes. Yes. How is it interacting with us? Yes. And I think our episode three answers that question. So, case closed. I mean, I hope so. Conversations over. You know, because I think what you have to look at is what the universe... What do we know about the universe is always creating. It's creating and the destroying and creating again. Like that is baseline, right? It's all creation, like from like the stars to the earth to all of us to crystals like everything's been created. And so it makes sense of consciousness likes to create that it's going to create through us. And somehow us humans can hear it. I mean, I don't know if bats and like weasels can pick up a song or a story, but we certainly can. And what does that mean? And also the fact that we will with our very precious time on earth create thousands of different types of lamps or homes or you know as Liz Gilberts says tons of chairs like? You just need one chair. And so that brings up a lot, I think.

And we know, in our episode three,

we talked to not just creators, but thinkers and mathematicians

and people who will say, like, if I don't grab an idea,

it will go on to someone else.

And sometimes an idea will come,

but if you aren't ready for it or giving it a time, it will

leave you.

And if you come back to it, it might just be like a dead-limit part of itself. You can push it and prod it and it won't come back. So what does that mean? It seems like consciousness has a will that it wants to make manifests through us. So I mean, we explore all of this in season two. I should say, my secret reason for having you here is I want to pitch a podcast where I

just talk about every episode of this love and hate with you and we get to talk about

it in every one in detail. all of this in season two. I should say my secret reason for having you here is I want to pitch a podcast where I

just talk about every episode of this love and he takes with you and we get to talk about it in every one in detail. And we're not going to do that because we've done that with at least a dozen other episodes where we've had guests on and we've poked and prodded and what is this episode mean? You know, we're fascinated with not just the telepathy tapes, but we're fascinated with the fascination about this aspect of our consciousness and our conscious

yeah ability to communicate, to communicate in other realms. When people would say to me, oh, I listened to the first episode, oh, I don't know if I'm into it. And I just kept saying, keep going, keep going. Whatever you think is about to happen, keep going. And by the time you get to the end, what is opened up is what sounds like an opening to season two, which is with all of these incredible examples and all of the, you know, ups and downs that you can go through with each of these individual journeys. The sort of thesis that comes out of season one is there is a place, right? There is a place, a metaphysical place, a mythical place, right? We don't really know. We don't know. But there is a place where consciousness exists outside of our bodies that some people have an apparent ability to access and what if it's not that hard to get there? Right. So that, for me, is sort of like where we then head into season two, tell us what else season two is going to cover in the field of consciousness. So where we left season one, I mean, it kind of leaves with someone passing away. And other non-speaking individuals with a praxia who

we talk about in season one, if you haven't listened to it, who are able to communicate telepathically from a long distance are able to telepathically communicate with this young man who passed away. And they also know where he is and what he looks like. And when he, yeah, that, yeah, I mean, I was like, someone explain it. That's the striking moment where these children. Without being told, there's no possible way that that information could

have gone to them all seem to know that a friend of theirs passes. Yeah. That kind of brought up some questions around consciousness surviving death and who else can access it and what is it like where are we going because it doesn't seem to be that out of reach for some of the non speakers that we profile in the first season. So our first episode looks at near-death experiences. Going back not just recently, like 5,000 years in ancient civilizations from China to some year, to Mesopotamia, and how many of our afterlife beliefs that popped up all over the world and look very similar, weren just ideas. There are reports from people who'd been there and come back. And so we kind of look at that. And if we can understand like what people are thinking or saying where we're going and this has been, you know, throughout Native America, like all over the world, same concept of where we're going, then from there we can look at, okay, well, if we are going somewhere, it seems that way, then can you communicate from that divide, and then we look into mediumship, and try to unpack it scientifically, but also compare if mediumship is real, and someone's connecting with spirits, obviously the means of doing that would be telepathy. And we bring in a non-speaker and episode two who can do all communicate from a distance with the living as well as the dead. Can I explain explain what that's like just for us to understand someone who is distinguishing between this is a person who's alive and I'm able to tap into their brain, their consciousness, their thoughts versus, oh, this is a person who is not here anymore. And I have information that only you and they would know. Yeah. Well, it's really interesting. And she was such, she's a joy to talk to and she's young. She's 11, you know, so she's, but on, you know, the mediumship really started happening, I think, for her

big time after season one came out and her mom started saying she's being visited all the time,

but these are messages from people we barely know or like, we'll be on an airplane. And she'll say,

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