Welcome to the Conversations, DiMatter Podcast. My name is John Harris and we do have an interview

today with a special guest, Chris, and by the way I should have asked this beforehand.

Your last name, I don't want to botch it, but it's K- dub is how you, is that like your hip-hop name or is that your actual last name?

Okay.

Just social, but last name is Williams.

That's different than K-dub.

So your hip-hop name is kind of Chris K-dub.

Right, right.

All right.

So we're going to explore that because you've kind of gone from Christian hip-hop to Calvinism and apologetics really to now.

Most of your content is on social justice and kind of how it's being pushed in the church and there's a few of us that are talking about this.

But we all have different ways of approaching it.

So one of the things that I really appreciated about your content is how you mix your hip hop and

and your kind of your artist side with what's going on in the church, apologetics, and a

social justice movement and I think the first one I saw was your Wokanda

video a few years maybe a year ago or so. Yeah. And so now you've put out a few years maybe a year ago or so. Yeah.

And so now you've put out a few.

I think the last one I saw was,

I don't know if it's called I'm Black,

but you, yeah, yeah, you talk about how you're black,

but you're wearing like a MAGA hat and stuff so I'm trying to confuse people there.

But yeah, so I want to just get your story a little bit kind of like how did you arrive at where you're at today and then and then we'll talk about you know how people can find you and what you're trying to accomplish and stuff so so walk me through the progression here like did you get saved as an adult? Were you raised in the church?

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