Come back to the present moment, even when it's a four alarm fire, you have a moment.

You can ground yourself.

You're going to make a better decision if you are actually in your body as opposed to in

a place of catastrophizing.

I know for me, you know, my initial rupture was my own diagnosis, then my dad's diagnosis

which really brought up all the old stuff for me and then put me on this path to understanding

how grief can be a master healer and all the things that we can learn if we're willing

to work with our pain as opposed to try to polish our pain.

Hello, hello, yo, me's Jai Ma, Jai Ma, it is Wickelle and welcome to your own magic

a podcast for the creative and the curious soul and today I have the incredible privilege

of sitting down with none other than Chris Carr, who is a true beacon of strength and wisdom

and inspiration in the realm of wellness and resilience.

It was a pleasure to also talk about her latest book.

I'm not a morning person, braving loss, grief and the big messy emotions that happen

when life falls apart, which is set to launch this week, September 19th.

Chris Carr is a New York Times bestselling author, a compassionate wellness coach and

a remarkable cancer driver.

I mean, she has been through it her journey has been nothing short of extraordinary, earning

her a coveted spot on Oprah's Super Soul 100, no big deal and a list celebrating the

most influential thought leaders of our time and Chris's life story was beautifully captured

in the documentary Crazy Sexy Cancer, where she served as both the subject and the director.

And so during our conversation, Chris will touch on a range of essential topics from

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