Kouri Richins Update: State's Own Medical Examiner Won't Rule Eric's Death a Homicide
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Tony Brueski
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🗓️ 4 March 2026
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
The prosecution in the Kouri Richins murder trial has a problem they can't explain away. Their own former Chief Medical Examiner—Dr. Erik Christensen—testified that Eric Richins' death certificate still lists manner of death as "undetermined." Four years of investigation. Dozens of witnesses. And the man who analyzed the body won't call it murder.
Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke break down the latest trial developments with defense attorney Bob Motta on True Crime Today. The state played what they hoped would be damning evidence—a nine-minute recording of Kouri calling Christensen's office asking detailed questions about the substances found in Eric's body. But does that call show consciousness of guilt, or a widow desperately trying to understand how her husband died?
The drug-chain witnesses are falling apart under scrutiny. Robert Crozier testified he only sold oxycodone to Carmen Lauber—not fentanyl—because "everybody was scared of fentanyl" at the time. That flatly contradicts Lauber's testimony. When your two key witnesses can't agree on what drugs were even involved, the prosecution's theory has a foundational crack.
Bob Motta walks through the elements the state still hasn't proven: what drugs Carmen actually obtained, how fentanyl entered Eric's system, and most critically—that Kouri was the one who administered it. No fentanyl has ever been recovered from the Richins home. The copperware allegedly used for the Moscow Mules was never tested. An empty hydrocodone bottle in Eric's nightstand was never analyzed.
The prosecution has called over twenty witnesses. The defense hasn't even started their case yet. Is the state running out of time to connect the dots—or is there more coming that changes everything?
Bob Motta doesn't speculate. He analyzes what the evidence actually shows.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Dree. |
| 0:09.0 | The prosecution in the Corey Richens trial played a bombshell recording the other day. |
| 0:16.6 | Cory Richens calling the medical examiner's office asking detailed questions about the substances found in Eric's body. |
| 0:25.4 | But that same witness, Dr. Eric Christensen, made damaging admissions under cross-examination. |
| 0:30.9 | Meanwhile, the state's drug chain witnesses are contradicting each other and no fentanyl has ever been found in the Richens home. |
| 0:38.6 | We are going to dive into right now what is going on in the prosecution of Corey Richens, |
| 0:44.6 | and then we'll discuss the defense of Cory Richens and how that's playing out. |
| 0:49.5 | Joining Robin and myself, Robin Drake, retired FBI special agency for the counterintelligence behavioral analysis |
| 0:55.9 | program is Bob Mata, defense attorney. Bob, welcome. This has been such an interesting case so far. |
| 1:04.9 | It's had its moments, I feel like on both sides where you go, oh, oh, and you just kind of keep going, oh, it's back and forth |
| 1:14.1 | quite a bit. But one of the things that we've recently seen, like I said, was that phone call. |
| 1:20.2 | I want to talk about that, the phone call to the medical expert, the examiner that Dr. Eric Christensen. |
| 1:28.3 | It was an interesting phone call. |
| 1:30.3 | If you've not had a chance to hear it, |
| 1:32.3 | if it's obviously available out there online, |
| 1:35.3 | and she gets into wanting to know information about |
| 1:38.3 | exactly how much of this drug fentanyl killed Eric, |
| 1:42.3 | the different types of it. |
| 1:43.3 | At one point, she's confused about a prescription that's actually her own prescription |
| 1:47.8 | that was in Eric's body. |
| 1:50.5 | She can't quite pronounce it. |
| 1:52.1 | What was your take on that phone call? |
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