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Kouri Richins: Crime Scene Tech Admits Kitchen Was Never Searched Night Eric Died

True Crime Today | Daily True Crime News & Interviews

Tony Brueski

True Crime, News Commentary, News

4.2612 Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2026

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

The Moscow Mule theory is central to the prosecution's case against Kouri Richins. They claim she slipped fentanyl into her husband's drink. But crime scene technician Chelsea Gipson admitted under cross-examination that the kitchen was never searched the night Eric died. Neither was the basement. The copperware allegedly used for the cocktails was never tested.

Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke break down the investigative failures exposed during the Kouri Richins trial with defense attorney Bob Motta on True Crime Today. An empty hydrocodone bottle sat in Eric's nightstand—never tested. Investigators only went back to collect certain items after a private investigator hired by Eric's family flagged them. The medical examiner's office never tested hair follicles that could have shown whether Eric was a long-term fentanyl user.

Carmen Lauber—the prosecution's star witness on drug supply—admitted she tested positive for methamphetamine during the relevant time period. She changed her story after receiving immunity from three different jurisdictions. And a detective told her explicitly that "the goal is to convict Kouri for aggravated murder" before she testified.

The defense team of Kathy Nester, Wendy Lewis, and Alex Ramos hasn't called a single witness yet. Through cross-examination alone, they've surfaced questions about the investigation's integrity, exposed contradictions in testimony, and highlighted forensic tests that were never performed despite being available.

Bob Motta analyzes whether reasonable doubt is already established or whether the defense has peaked too early. The prosecution still has witnesses to call. The defense has 35 of their own waiting. This case is far from decided—but the gaps in the investigation may already be too wide to close.

What absolutely has to happen for either side to win?

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Drey.

0:08.1

Corey Richon's defense team, Kathy Nestor, Wendy Lewis, and Alex Ramos has been surgical in attacking the prosecution's case.

0:15.8

They've exposed contradictions and witness testimony, resurfaced questions about the investigation's integrity,

0:21.3

and highlighted critical forensic tests that were never performed.

0:26.2

But the prosecution still has witnesses to call, and the defense hasn't even begun their own case.

0:32.9

I'm wondering if they stole one of the things that we brought up on the show here the other week,

0:37.8

hair follicle testing, because that was brought up as an interesting point the other day.

0:42.5

And I think the other week when we were talking about it, why didn't anyone do hair follicle testing?

0:46.9

Because that could really show us a track record here.

0:49.9

Because it's like rings on a tree.

0:51.6

It would show us if he had been an active user of fentanyl for a period of time or if this

0:57.8

was an extreme one-off.

0:59.5

The testing wasn't done.

1:02.0

They made a big point of that.

1:04.0

I found that Ramos was watching us.

1:06.4

I think there's been so many damn cases where we bring it up here and the next day it's going on

1:11.1

out there.

1:12.5

So I do wonder about that.

1:16.2

But it's a good point that that was made because it really could answer a lot of questions.

1:21.5

And for one side, it's not going to be good.

1:24.0

We don't know which side, though, because we don't know what that test is going to

1:27.9

show. And since it was never done, it was never ordered, along with a whole bunch of other tests that

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