Kouri Richins Convicted: Experts Break Down the Grief Book Interview She Gave Before Her Arrest
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Tony Brueski
4.2 • 612 Ratings
🗓️ 19 March 2026
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Summary
Kouri Richins has been convicted of aggravated murder in the death of her husband Eric Richins. Before her arrest, she appeared on a local morning show to promote a children's book about grief — a book she paid a ghostwriting service to write, presented publicly as her own, weeks after Eric's death.
Tony Brueski is joined by psychotherapist Shavaun Scott and retired FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke to examine that interview through the lens of what a jury has now decided. Shavaun Scott analyzes the psychology of performed grief — what it looks like, how it's constructed, and what Kouri's specific presentation reveals about how she was managing her public identity in the period between Eric's death and her arrest. Robin Dreeke brings the behavioral analysis — breaking down the language patterns, delivery choices, and signals in that interview that trained investigators read as indicators of deception and narrative control.
The book wasn't hers. The grief wasn't what it appeared. The interview was a move. This is what it looked like from the inside.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Green. |
| 0:08.6 | We have a lot to break down today as we do a little review of the case of Corey Richards. |
| 0:14.7 | We're going to talk all about the psychological end of the whole case. From Corey to Eric, how it all played out, |
| 0:24.4 | why it all worked the way it did. |
| 0:27.5 | But we're going to begin today with a video, because I found it's rather interesting to look back on this case |
| 0:35.1 | at certain aspects now that the prism has aligned itself |
| 0:39.1 | to show that she is in fact guilty, that a jury of her peers found that she was lying her ass off the entire time, |
| 0:46.7 | including to Good Day, Utah, or whatever the hell the program was, |
| 0:51.8 | where Corey goes on, and we've all heard about it, we've all seen clips of this where |
| 0:55.6 | Corey is promoting her children's book, Are You With Me? |
| 1:00.5 | Seeing it from this perspective, knowing that all of it was a lie, is really interesting. |
| 1:08.3 | So I want to bring in Robin Drake, our co-host, |
| 1:12.1 | a retired FBI special agency for the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, |
| 1:16.3 | and Chavon Scott, psychotherapist and author. |
| 1:19.4 | Author of this book right here. |
| 1:21.2 | It's Nightbird, available wherever books are sold. |
| 1:24.9 | And break down, and then we're going to play the the video and we're going to kind of work our way |
| 1:30.8 | through it, stop, because there's just a lot of interesting observations that I know I was |
| 1:35.7 | making and I'd love to get your guys's opinions on what we are seeing as we go through |
| 1:42.8 | this video. |
| 1:43.9 | And as we watch this, you guys in the comments |
| 1:45.6 | section, please do weigh in with your thoughts on Substack and YouTube. The links are in the |
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