What if it's not just telling stories to satiate my need to get something off my chest and

to satisfy with a story that makes someone laugh or a story that makes someone gasp or a story that brings a tear to the eye?

But what if it was a story that unlocks life in someone?

Welcome, everybody, this is Simon Gilbo with Inspired, create to be back for another week. I hope you're on good form. Basically, if you're new to inspired, it's all about meeting different mates of mine from different walks of life who are doing fantastic stuff, whether it's in England or overseas. And it's to stir faith because we're bombarded and bashed by a relentless barrage of bad news and and grim narratives and anxiety inducing stuff.

It's bleak in general. So this counteracts there and I have no doubt that in about an hour's time,

under an hour, you'll leave inspired, encouraged, stirred in your faith, challenge to be all in.

And I've got no doubt of that because we got with us, Ben Jack. Welcome, Ben.

Hey, Simon, great to be with you. Fantastic to have you. You're in Manchester right now.

I'm guessing we go back about 10 years. I used to come out every couple of years to do those

proximity conferences. And you're now the head, the global head of advance. Some people

know you as DJ, producer Galactus Jack. You're in

Manchester with Naomi, your wife, daughter, Halley and Pugtoshi. Anyway, listen, I don't know much

about your background and I'm looking forward to hearing more in general. So let's just crack on

with it, Ben. Was it, was it a conventional background? Yeah, in some ways it was, and in other

ways, not so much. My parents were missionaries in France before I came along with European Christian

mission. When my sister was born, they stayed out there for a little while and then felt that

the Lord gave them permission to come back to the UK and be a little closer to family. My dad ended up

moving into theological education, became principal of a Bible college in Cambridge. And by this

point, I'd arrived on the sea. And so I grew up in this household where I had parents that

were very passionate about mission and and reaching people

with the good news and hope of Jesus. But also a dad who's very academic and intellectual and

thoughtful. But on the other side, my mom, who's very deeply pastoral. I mean, my dad's very

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