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KING CHARLES: WITH POPE FRANCIS. WITH PM CARNEY. GREGORY COPLEY, DEFENSE & FOREIGN AFFAIRS

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🗓️ 19 March 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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KING CHARLES: WITH POPE FRANCIS. WITH PM CARNEY. GREGORY COPLEY, DEFENSE & FOREIGN AFFAIRS
1819 BUCKINGHAM

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0:00.0

I'm John Baxter, and Gregory Copley is here to help me understand the politics of the relationship

0:11.2

between the Church of England, headed by King Charles III, and this is the King Charles

0:16.7

Report, headed by King Charles III, and the Pope, Pope Francis, heading the Roman Catholic Church.

0:24.3

This is a marriage that fell apart in the 16th century, and ever since then there have been

0:33.3

very careful approaches to rapprochement. I don't know the status, however.

0:38.4

So Gregory helped me.

0:39.9

Is this significant good news that the king is traveling to Rome for an audience?

0:47.3

He's had an audience before, but not as king, 2017, when he was the heir, but now he's king himself. Is this something that is unusual for the Church

0:57.8

of England and the Roman Catholic Church? It is, and it's a very sensitive issue, because there's

1:04.9

no question of the Anglican Church surrendering its sovereignty to the Catholic Church. And there's a risk,

1:17.3

if you like, for King Charles to visit Pope Francis on this occasion. But because the Pope has been

1:23.1

ill, and there's no question of the Pope coming to London at this particular time.

1:27.9

So Charles goes to visit him and it does actually start to bring about greater ecumenical

1:34.3

cooperation.

1:36.7

The King has been working on this, not just with the Catholic Church, but with Muslim and other

1:42.1

Christian sects and with the Jewish faith over the last few months,

1:47.6

basically to get a more coherent and optimistic approach to the wars in the Middle East,

1:53.8

particularly the current Palestinian or Hamas conflict with Israel.

1:58.9

And that seems to have been very, very positive, but it's toned down

2:02.9

to a large extent a lot of the pro-Palestinian protests and violence that we've seen

2:12.0

throughout Western Europe, and the King is very engaged in ensuring that there is a cooperation in that regard.

2:18.3

It also means that the king is exerting once again his great diplomatic prestige in building

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