King Charles and the Church: The Disestablishment Debate with Dr. Jonathan Chaplin & Catherine Pepinster hosted by Roger Bolton

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🗓️ 5 May 2023

⏱️ 80 minutes

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This week on Unbelievable’s Coronation special Roger Bolton asks how important is the established Church of England to the fabric of life in the United Kingdom and beyond? Does King Charles as Supreme Governor of the Church of England have divine purpose? Academic and author Dr. Jonathan Chaplin of Wesley House, Cambridge suggests we should ditch the religious aspects of the Coronation to better reflect multicultural Britain. Catherine Pepinster author and broadcaster argues the sacral aspects of the Coronation act as a enduring symbol of the country's heritage. Will King Charles III embrace Christianity as a guiding force in his reign? Should he forge a new path for a changing nation? And what is the role of the established church in public life? Catherine Pepinster is an author and expert on the history of coronations, and was editor of the Catholic Tablet journal for over 13 year. She is the author of Defenders of the Faith - The British Monarchy, Religion and the Next Coronation and explains the significance of the deeply sacred Christian event and the unifying role it can play in the nation and beyond. Dr. Jonathan Chaplin wrote Beyond Establishment - Resetting Church-State relations in England and- as a committed Christian and Anglican - proposes a radical rethinking, of the relationship between the Church and the state. Follow Catherine Pepinster on Twitter @CPsPepTalk or her blog here peptalk519.wordpress.com Follow Jonathan Chaplin here where he is an Honorary Fellow at Wesley House, Cambridge https://www.wesley.cam.ac.uk/single-page-profile/?smid=8691 Books referenced in the podcast Catherine Pepinster's book https://www.amazon.co.uk/Defenders-Faith-Charles-coronation-Christianity/dp/1399800078/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1YYU7RLTNQ86O&keywords=CAtherine+pepinster&qid=1683170895&sprefix=catherine+pepinster%2Caps%2C71&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Defenders-Faith-Monarchy-Religion-Coronation/dp/139980006X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=KTP3JQN0TGPO&keywords=catherine+pepinster%27s+defender+of+the+faith&qid=1683170972&sprefix=Catherine+pepinster%2Caps%2C154&sr=8-1 Dr Jonathan Chaplin's book https://www.amazon.co.uk/Beyond-Establishment-Resetting-Church-State-Relations/dp/0334061733/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2W4EMUWTFGOJW&keywords=jonathan+chaplin&qid=1683170924&sprefix=jonathan+chaplin%2Caps%2C74&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Establishment-Resetting-Church-State-Relations-ebook/dp/B0B4F6CGCM/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3MRA7ZO4VX4NT&keywords=jonathan+chaplin&qid=1683171020&sprefix=jonathan+chaplin%2Caps%2C149&sr=8-4 • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:00.0	It is a service of consecration, it does have this very specific and in today's society
0:10.4	very controversial, Christian theological meaning, how can it function as the moment of
0:18.4	the investiture of the head of state of the entire United Kingdom?
0:22.4	The accession of Charles provided us with a certain stability.
0:26.3	We had that extraordinary political craziness, the Queen shook the hand of Boris Johnson
0:32.8	and the hand of Liz Truss as one went to the other came in.
0:37.2	Within a few weeks, not long after she died, we had Rishi Seenak,
0:41.7	term or political turmoil, that mean time that monarchy provided continuity and stability,
0:49.3	and that was highlighted by that political turmoil.
0:52.2	Hello and welcome to Unbelievable, the show that tries to get Christians and non-Christians thinking.
0:58.2	I'm Roger Bolton and this week we're going to discuss whether the church and state should be
1:04.3	bound together or separated. The reason for discussing this now is of course the coronation of
1:09.9	King Charles III to whom the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, has suggested we pay homage.
1:17.5	A suggestion that raised a considerable number of eyebrows.
1:21.3	Well to discuss the role of monarchy and the coronation in the 21st century, I'm joined by
1:26.6	Catherine Pepinster, Catholic colonist and former editor of the tablet, and she's the author
1:32.2	of defenders of the faith. The British monarchy, religion and the next coronation,
1:38.1	and by Dr Jonathan Chaplin. His fellow of Wesley House Cambridge and the author of Beyond
1:45.3	Establishment, resetting church-state relations in England.
1:54.0	You can discover lots more content at premierunbelievable.com and we always love hearing from you,
2:00.4	our listeners. So please get in touch and tell us what you think.
2:04.2	Of course you can write to us at unbelievableatpremier.org.uk and you can follow the show and
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