Coming up on the Mark Devine show, build a link between kindness on one side as an example

and productivity, between optimism and effectiveness, between curiosity and efficiency.

You talk about kindness is a nice to have and every company wants to be associated to

that idea, but at the end of the day you need to deliver results.

But if you build a link between kindness and those results, all of a sudden you become

something really interesting.

This is Mark Devine and I'm the host of the Mark Devine show.

Thanks for joining me today.

Super stoked to have you here on this show.

I explore what it means to be fearless through the lens of the world's most inspirational

and compassionate and resilient leaders.

Each week I have a guest from all walks of life, martial arts, grandmasters, high-powered

CEOs, meditation monks, and even world-class designers from PepsiCo, for instance.

So I'm talking today to Mario Porcini about the human side of innovation.

Mario's PepsiCo's first ever chief design officer over the past eight years.

He is in this design team of one more than 1100 design and innovation awards.

And in 2018 PepsiCo was recognized by Fortune in its driven by design list.

Mario's previously three M's, first chief design officer, and he's been recognized

with several personal awards, including Fortune's 40 under 40.

Cheat Qattel is 30 best dressed men and fast companies 50, most influential designers

in the US.

In 2018 Porcini was awarded with a knighthood by the president of the Italian Republic

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