Hello and welcome back to Franklin Covey's twice weekly podcast on leadership

with Scott Miller. It's me. I'm your host and interviewer now six years, nearly

400 episodes where we've had the honor and the privilege to speak with many of the world's most

iconic thought leaders, business leaders, CEOs, entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs, athletes,

expert, celebrities, author, scientists, researchers, academics, you name it,

they have come to on leadership.

And on occasion, some of them come back.

Rarely, but when they have such seminal work like today's guest,

we invite them back and hope they will grace us

with their new learnings. I will tell you in nearly 400 interviews

tape today's guest is clearly one of my top five favorite,

primarily because her work has I think changed the landscape of not just large

organizations but Inc 500 and Russell 2000 of mom and pops and startups because she herself has been a lifelong entrepreneur and

intrapreneur. Her book, the first book she wrote of course, is called

Radical Candor. This book has permeated all the books that I have written about,

I give her credit on, I think really reshaping the landscape of communication.

Of course, the opposite of Radical Candoror you might call is ruinous empathy and talk

about a great term that companies have wrestled with.

Her first book was called radical candor, be a kick-ass Boss, without losing your humanity.

This book went on to shape the conversations and cultures of organizations worldwide.

And then Kim Scott, as a renowned entrepreneur, did what a lot of authors do.

She went on and created a second book that launched a couple of years ago called Just Work.

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