We've just spent an hour with Miss Emma Sale, who's the founder of Killing Kittens here in London.

It is an elite casual dating organization.

What'd you think of her?

I thought she was a very brave and progressive woman and some of the things that she revealed about what goes on at the kind of events that she holds

which just blew my mind.

It's weird how like the whole sexuality aspect just makes,

it really triggers you to your core, you know,

this episode has been driving me crazy for days because I didn't know what

it was going to be like. So it was a real trip having her here because it's different than what we normally talk about.

I think for anyone who wants to know what the real life eyes wide shut is like this is probably

the episode to listen to.

Yeah she talks about what it's like at a real live orgy.

So here it is. Enjoy. This is

Nick Gabriel and

the the

This is London reel

I'm Brian Rose this is Nick Gabriel and joining this day is Miss Emma Sale

who is the founder of Killing Kitans, which provides a safe environment for people to explore

their fantasies and sexual desires.

Oh, just shag as she says.

Your tagline is elite casual dating, but I was wondering if you could tell us

what is killing kittens and why does it exist?

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