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'Kill-ology': Training US police officers on how to kill

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Politics, Unknown, Daily News, News

41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2020

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

David Grossman is one of America's most prolific and controversial police trainers. His courses on 'kill-ology' put violence and the act of killing at the heart of law enforcement. In the aftermath of Black Lives Matter, Grossman's methods have come under question. 


Host:

David Aaronovitch


Guest:

Laura Pullman


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0:00.0

What should a police officer be like?

0:06.0

He encourages police officers to beat their chest and look over the city and let their kind of metaphorical superhero cake flutter in the wind.

0:14.1

As Black Lives Matter protests continue and as many Americans call for a rethink of how policing should be done,

0:21.2

we look at the philosophy of one of the US's most successful police trainers.

0:30.0

He wants to teach people how to be emotionally and spiritually and psychologically prepared to kill on the job.

0:37.0

You're listening to stories of our times from The Times and the Sunday Times.

0:41.0

I'm David Aromovich. Today, Killology, an American way of policing. Have you resolved in your heart that you were fully prepared to snuff out of human life?

0:59.0

I'm looking at a YouTube video of a rather vigorous man in his late 50s in dark shirt and jeans standing in an

1:05.6

auditorium addressing a seated crowd of mostly men some in uniform many with close

1:11.2

cropped hair.

1:17.0

He's quite animated. And he has a flip chart in front of him

1:20.0

on which he's writing in big blue letters, figures like 98%, 1%, 1%, 1%.

1:30.0

And 1%. An old Vietnam vet, an old red retirement. and one

1:33.3

Vietnam vet, an old retired colonel told me one time, just one sentence and we've run with it ever since.

1:38.2

And it turns out the 98% refers to the number of people in society who he says and he now writes this in red a sheep

1:47.0

98% of it's a sheep. He said most people in our society are sheep.

1:55.0

Decent gentle creatures who can only

1:57.6

heard just by action or extreme provocation.

2:00.3

And then he writes against the other 1%, they're sheepdogs.

2:05.0

And he says, sheep dog, I am a predator too.

2:08.0

He said, I am a predator too.

2:11.0

And now he comes down off the stage

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