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🗓️ 17 July 2020
⏱️ 26 minutes
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David Grossman is one of America's most prolific and controversial police trainers. His courses on 'kill-ology' put violence and the act of killing at the heart of law enforcement. In the aftermath of Black Lives Matter, Grossman's methods have come under question.
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David Aaronovitch
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0:00.0 | What should a police officer be like? |
0:06.0 | He encourages police officers to beat their chest and look over the city and let their kind of metaphorical superhero cake flutter in the wind. |
0:14.1 | As Black Lives Matter protests continue and as many Americans call for a rethink of how policing should be done, |
0:21.2 | we look at the philosophy of one of the US's most successful police trainers. |
0:30.0 | He wants to teach people how to be emotionally and spiritually and psychologically prepared to kill on the job. |
0:37.0 | You're listening to stories of our times from The Times and the Sunday Times. |
0:41.0 | I'm David Aromovich. Today, Killology, an American way of policing. Have you resolved in your heart that you were fully prepared to snuff out of human life? |
0:59.0 | I'm looking at a YouTube video of a rather vigorous man in his late 50s in dark shirt and jeans standing in an |
1:05.6 | auditorium addressing a seated crowd of mostly men some in uniform many with close |
1:11.2 | cropped hair. |
1:17.0 | He's quite animated. And he has a flip chart in front of him |
1:20.0 | on which he's writing in big blue letters, figures like 98%, 1%, 1%, 1%. |
1:30.0 | And 1%. An old Vietnam vet, an old red retirement. and one |
1:33.3 | Vietnam vet, an old retired colonel told me one time, just one sentence and we've run with it ever since. |
1:38.2 | And it turns out the 98% refers to the number of people in society who he says and he now writes this in red a sheep |
1:47.0 | 98% of it's a sheep. He said most people in our society are sheep. |
1:55.0 | Decent gentle creatures who can only |
1:57.6 | heard just by action or extreme provocation. |
2:00.3 | And then he writes against the other 1%, they're sheepdogs. |
2:05.0 | And he says, sheep dog, I am a predator too. |
2:08.0 | He said, I am a predator too. |
2:11.0 | And now he comes down off the stage |
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